I think the worst part about this whole thread is that everyone contributing to the bantering back and forth only further contributes to the "green participation ribbon" philosophy of society where everyone feels as though they have to be right and the bickering won't stop. State your opinion and let it be. If an ankle biter wants to contradict everything you say, good for them, that's their personal problem with themselves, not yours. Come, state your opinion, then be done. Acting civilly usually begins when the bigger person makes the choice to accept that others will disagree and that's ok, no need to fight for the green ribbon. Anyway, just my .02