The Decline of Devils Lake

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when i was up their --- i did the best when others didnt and sucked when everyone else caught fish. you would think last year was a bonus with the rain. Lake was up not? I liked dry years - -congregated the fish imo.
40ft --- out on roosevelt we fish 100ft --if you dont reel them up so fast they survive.
 


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I miss the lake --- i dont miss the every weekend road trip; i also dont miss the blow days or worse blow weekends. But she shined when the weather was nice.
 


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With the resounding replies acknowledging a perch problem in general why is the NDGF not acting? That is my biggest question. Drop the limit immediately to 10, most people are happy with saying "I got my limit". Look into stocking and possibly scale up and think about the future. Knowing there is a problem and doing nothing is basically like banging your head against the wall and thinking everything will get better. I put a ton of fault at the feet of the NDGF right now.
They’re probably doing what they can. They can only raise so many perch, and will stocking have any effect in a lake that size? And if so, is it going to be at the expense of not stocking other lakes? The net surveys show that perch numbers aren’t too far below average which may be true, but I can say from experience the size isn’t quite there.

Part two is liberal limits are big business in that town. The chamber of commerce and politicians would go nuclear if the game and fish dropped limits to 10 perch on DL since guides, hotels, and resorts market full buckets.

Maybe the master plan is to let it suck for a couple years to temper interest.
 

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Perch bite is Hotttttt on Hobart
Did you get in on that when it actually was? It was crazy good!! I sure did and I saw plates from as far away as MO!!

Of course you had the usual sconies and blue platers as well. (given)

I'd say it was about 50-50 out of state to residents. Or very damn close!!!
 

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Did you get in on that when it actually was? It was crazy good!! I sure did and I saw plates from as far away as MO!!

Of course you had the usual sconies and blue platers as well. (given)

I'd say it was about 50-50 out of state to residents. Or very damn close!!!
i was i remember thinking 7ft water cant see anything with the cam. I only got a couple biggens though
 


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This has been years in the making but I believe we are truly seeing the repercussions currently of it. I think if a person thinks back 10 years to what has been going on in Devils Lake it starts to make sense. We are currently in the midst of a very tough ice season on Devils Lake, Weather no doubt has been a challenge this year but there remains pretty big issues with the "Perch Capital Of The World".

I firmly believe that the perch simply are not there in numbers anymore on DL. The G&F has not stocked any perch in DL in many, many years and the results are now showing themselves. Ice fishing is not the same as it was even 10 years ago with the massive advancement in technology and now wide use of forward facing sonar technology. Currently there are MANY guides operating on DL and the constant "perch problem" is being talked about. With the absence of perch, the focus turns to walleyes which are also starting to feel the effect of increased angling in my opinion.

The NDGF has operated under a "minimal restriction" method in regards to Devils Lake for many, many years. No regulations on size, no regulations on fishing timeframes, no regulations on the numbers of guides and outfitters and no stocking of the yellow perch. I firmly believe that the NDGF needs to change their operating plan for Devils Lake. I asked 5 years ago at the spring advisory meeting on the status of the Devils Lake perch population. NDGF Fisheries Chief Greg Power's response was that we needed more water in Devils Lake to flood vegetation. Now remember, 5 years ago we were less than 10 years from the all time high in DL and if you go back 30 years, 25+ FEET above that level when Devils Lake had a booming yellow perch fishery going on.

I question the creel studies done on DL and seriously question the management plan on this lake. There remains many walleyes but the general size is in decline with most of the pressure now on walleyes with the absence of perch. I look forward to future advisory meetings and would like to hear something from the NDGF on the results of their current management. The fishing deal has changed greatly. Non residents largely hire guides and are taken to the fish that exist. Gone are the days that many come and look for fish on their own. Currently there are over 150 winter guides operating on Devils Lake during the ice season. For the future of this fishery when history would suggest we continue to trend lower with lake levels, I really think some focus needs to be put on and ramp up stocking efforts and in the meantime look at different management strategies than what have been practiced for the last 15 years.

I have ice fished Devils Lake for 25 years and it has changed greatly. I, along with others hope to see some change on this body of water.
Interesting read,been years since ive fished d.l.,years ago our goto perch hot spot was 6 mile bay,evening hours our ice holes filled with fresh water shrimp attracted to our shack lights.

As far as creel surveys,been thru this on our premire walleye lake from years passed ( mille lacs lake) before trible gill netting which all but shut down our non native sport fishing.

But before slots started creel ppl were at every public and resort access,no problem at first checking our catch until we were informed dnr was compiling data for slots,so when checked...slow fishing sir,no fish. By mid 90's slots,first year 6 fish daily limit 14 to 16" walleye limits and no possession limits for non native sport fishermen, then following year 4 walleye limit,then two walleye then catch and release only,we had a couple years of no live bait or night fishing all this as natives slaughtered the walleye population.

My point is maybe ND gfp folks are leaning towards slots? And if they are creel ppl are not your friend but looking out for lake health and species population. Just a thought that slots might be on the radar,,no more catch and keep breeder females,ideal healthy spawning female eyes 19" to 25"s is what these ppl told us.

Today mille lacs is busting at the seems walleye population two fish keep limit 19 to 21"s or one over 28"s trophy eye.we ice fished last winter during a no keep winter season just cpr'd walleye bite hot n heavy on mid lake structure all fish caught were 25" to a couple 28's big perch mixed in.,this slot deal killed the tourist business around the lake,mom n pop resorts and restaurants belly up,alot of places burnt down mysteriously local natives plan has been to take land back around the lake and 12 mid mn counties by choking off the tourist business local tribes with a pocket full of casino $$ buying up lake shore property for pennies on the dollar. So curious if slots will ever hit the mega ND walleye lake D.L..
 
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Game and Fish has been pretty steady on saying that there's no biological reason for slots at this time. I suppose that could change. I wouldn't argue if they said all walleyes over 20" have to be released in April. ...popcorn...
Chance of survival is extremely low...no fishing until after spawn at that rate.....🤦‍♂️
 

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i wish they would close the season in the spring it would be kind of fun to have an opener.
 

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The issue is they are not interested in stocking lakes in the basin with perch, even though the lakes in the basin are ideal in producing huge perch. Majority if not all the lakes in the basin are full of fresh water shrimp which is the reason why devils lake at one time was a producer of monster toads. Now not one lake in the basin is stocked with perch and that's troubling especially since perch are great at sustainable growth population in very short time. Like some have said there is no reason why ndgf can not stock lakes in the basin with perch which is the reason why many anglers venture to devils lake region for perch during the ice fishing season.
 


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The issue is they are not interested in stocking lakes in the basin with perch, even though the lakes in the basin are ideal in producing huge perch. Majority if not all the lakes in the basin are full of fresh water shrimp which is the reason why devils lake at one time was a producer of monster toads. Now not one lake in the basin is stocked with perch and that's troubling especially since perch are great at sustainable growth population in very short time. Like some have said there is no reason why ndgf can not stock lakes in the basin with perch which is the reason why many anglers venture to devils lake region for perch during the ice fishing season.
Did chat GPT write that for you?
 

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i wish they would close the season in the spring it would be kind of fun to have an opener.
Remember in JAWS when a bounty was set on "the" shark?

I used to mull a concept for trout in the Hills: It was a 50/50 deal. Half closed or C/R for two years then swap. The major impediment was acid run off from old mines and tannic acid in autumn. In the 80's a rain sample in my hometown had the same Ph. as Coca Cola. Great strides have been made and hold-over is now a real deal. Rainbow/brown can be caught/killed in August and September (due to water temp: No "Hoot Owl").

Now there seems to be a movement for "brook" only. IMO; this would be like eradicating ringnecks.

IDK blah blah blah.
 

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Game and Fish has been pretty steady on saying that there's no biological reason for slots at this time. I suppose that could change. I wouldn't argue if they said all walleyes over 20" have to be released in April. ...popcorn...
Agreed, before we had slots mid 90's as capt of my boat all walleyes 20"s and up cpr'd,pissed away few partners off but release the healthy spawned my take plus smaller eyes way better table fare 16" to 19"s pan fried blackened style and a cold brewsky to finish the day.
 


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