Transporting game/fish

[Allen]

I think the bottom line is that there are a ton of laws that we routinely break as a matter of daily living. The key thing is to not draw attention to it, less we risk yet another rule/law to clarify the existing ones that contain both overreach and need for officers to use some discretion.

When is the last time any of us have heard of someone getting a ticket for transporting cooked pheasant, or a bag of frozen fish gifted to an elderly couple without the proper paperwork?

 

[Obi-Wan]

I think the bottom line is that there are a ton of laws that we routinely break as a matter of daily living. The key thing is to not draw attention to it, less we risk yet another rule/law to clarify the existing ones that contain both overreach and need for officers to use some discretion.

When is the last time any of us have heard of someone getting a ticket for transporting cooked pheasant, or a bag of frozen fish gifted to an elderly couple without the proper paperwork?

The point most are missing is - WHY IS THERE SUCH IDIOTIC LAWS AS THIS ? An overzealous warden or police officer could technically charge someone with multiple counts of illegally possessing or transporting wild game for taking ( insert any number) jars of canned pheasant, lets say give to grandma. Now you get to hire an attorney, take the day off work, go to court and defend yourself. not to mention that if you and grandma discussed you bringing the pheasant before hand you both could possibly be charged with conspiracy. I know this is far fetched but with idiotic laws like this it could become a reality for someone.

 

[3Roosters]

Transportation of canned wild game

Called the NDGF today to ask about how to transport canned(jar or can) pheasant and was told that you must consume (in this case pheasant) where you process it. I told the lady-(politely)that once it’s canned it‘s cooked and you should be able to transport the canned product. No dice. I asked her about transportation canned salmon that I can in Alaska, or a cooler of frozen halibut and she said she wouldn’t answer that question. I finally hung up on her when I told her the law has loopholes and she was snotty like a career government nipple sucker who wouldn’t know a can of pheasant from a can of dog shit. I understand rules, but does anyone talk to real people before they make them?

Hope you didn't ask about hen pheasants or bald eagles.

 

[Trip McNeely]

Who gives a shit anymore…… half the population either has too much money they can buy themselves out of following laws or they are so broke it doesn’t matter how much they break laws as it’s a cost to tax payers only and they just stay broke and on welfare. Fuck it. Laws only affect the middle class and half of the game laws on the books are a means to collect fines (taxes) and little logical sense. Just send it…..

 

[Allen]

The point most are missing is - WHY IS THERE SUCH IDIOTIC LAWS AS THIS ? An overzealous warden or police officer could technically charge someone with multiple counts of illegally possessing or transporting wild game for taking ( insert any number) jars of canned pheasant, lets say give to grandma. Now you get to hire an attorney, take the day off work, go to court and defend yourself. not to mention that if you and grandma discussed you bringing the pheasant before hand you both could possibly be charged with conspiracy. I know this is far fetched but with idiotic laws like this it could become a reality for someone.

The law books are filled with such "idiotic" laws. The purposes for them are not always very clear, but if one looks at some of the grossest violators of our fish and game laws, you know...the Sconis, Minnetuckians, etc...we are glad to have multiple avenues for prosecuting those dumbasses.

I could be wrong, but I am guessing that the first game warden who tries to make a name for himself by ticketing little old ladies who have been gifted fish by their son or neighbor is going to be soon looking for employment. So, you and I sit and worry about overly zealous enforcement of such laws, but in reality actual examples of this are few and far between.

 

[ND58201]

Don’t allow MN/WI hunters or fisherman in our state and the poaching, gross over limits, posted land and many other things would be cut by 80%… sad that 2 states could ruin our heritage but it’s happening… plus it seems every person that the Game and Fish have hired in the past 5 years are originally from MN.. their ideas didn’t work there so why bring that crap here?

 

[Allen]

Personally, I can understand and respect those who choose to leave MN.

So long, as you might say, they leave Mn for ND for all the right reasons.

 

[Reprobait]

I can't help but think that someone is looking for a loophole to skirt the possession limits in regard to taking game/fish out of the state.

 

[SDMF]

58201, I asked the question because I have someone borrowing my canner to process pheasant because it’s easier to transport and they were wondering if it’s legal or not. So smart guy, can I transport a 48 qt cooler of greyling(looks like walleye when frozen) caught in Alaska from say Devils lake to Wisconsin?

If someone is canning them DURING a hunting trip, like say they come to hunt for a long weekend or a week and cans them before taking them home, they'd likely get ticketed for improper transport (missing a head/wing).

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Transportation of canned wild game

Called the NDGF today to ask about how to transport canned(jar or can) pheasant and was told that you must consume (in this case pheasant) where you process it. I told the lady-(politely)that once it’s canned it‘s cooked and you should be able to transport the canned product. No dice. I asked her about transportation canned salmon that I can in Alaska, or a cooler of frozen halibut and she said she wouldn’t answer that question. I finally hung up on her when I told her the law has loopholes and she was snotty like a career government nipple sucker who wouldn’t know a can of pheasant from a can of dog shit. I understand rules, but does anyone talk to real people before they make them?

Sounds to me you are just looking for a problem instead of exercising common sense

58201, I asked the question because I have someone borrowing my canner to process pheasant because it’s easier to transport and they were wondering if it’s legal or not. So smart guy, can I transport a 48 qt cooler of greyling(looks like walleye when frozen) caught in Alaska from say Devils lake to Wisconsin?

How is someone borrowing a canning setup the same as transporting canned wild game?
How is fish transport related to pheasant transport? Is there any laws from Alaska that require a patch of skin left on every fillet and packaged for easy identification and counting like they do in Canada? If you had a 48qt cooler full of almost any fish I am pretty sure you would be over your allowed possession limit

 

[NG3067]

Sounds to me you are just looking for a problem instead of exercising common sense



How is someone borrowing a canning setup the same as transporting canned wild game?
How is fish transport related to pheasant transport? Is there any laws from Alaska that require a patch of skin left on every fillet and packaged for easy identification and counting like they do in Canada? If you had a 48qt cooler full of almost any fish I am pretty sure you would be over your allowed possession limit

Luv-scratching-ass, The person that is going to can the pheasant wanted to do so for easy transport as he was from out of state. I was only trying to avoid him having an issue at the airport, which in my opinion isn’t looking for problems, just trying to avoid them. But I guess you’re a simpleton and needed for me to spell it all out for you. As far as the cooler full of unmarked fillets, I have travelled often with that much. My point is that ND law is not realistic, you can’t even transport walleye for a fish fry in a neighboring town and be legal.

 

[3Roosters]

Luv-scratching-ass, The person that is going to can the pheasant wanted to do so for easy transport as he was from out of state. I was only trying to avoid him having an issue at the airport, which in my opinion isn’t looking for problems, just trying to avoid them. But I guess you’re a simpleton and needed for me to spell it all out for you. As far as the cooler full of unmarked fillets, I have travelled often with that much. My point is that ND law is not realistic, you can’t even transport walleye for a fish fry in a neighboring town and be legal.

Transport legally the way a person is supposed to. Easy peasy.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Luv-scratching-ass, The person that is going to can the pheasant wanted to do so for easy transport as he was from out of state. I was only trying to avoid him having an issue at the airport, which in my opinion isn’t looking for problems, just trying to avoid them. But I guess you’re a simpleton and needed for me to spell it all out for you. As far as the cooler full of unmarked fillets, I have travelled often with that much. My point is that ND law is not realistic, you can’t even transport walleye for a fish fry in a neighboring town and be legal.

Nice Name calling. I think that showed me all I need from you.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Transport legally the way a person is supposed to. Easy peasy.

Yup, where did he mention anything about traveling through an airport. he already told us how he treated the game and fish lady to show how tough he is and backed it up with name calling in different posts when he doesn't get the answers he wants or gets questioned.
Just another person that ends up on the Camper treatment from me, won't be seeing anymore of his dribble

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Also, traveling by airplane with glass jars doesn't sound the easiest or the best idea. Why not quarter your birds, vaccum seal them, line up for the styromfoam cooler with dry ice, throw everything in, have it sealed up like and chuck it on the plane. Then you can easily show that you are not over your possession limit, unless you are hiding something. Starting to think the OP working on becoming a wild game smuggler

 

[Lycanthrope]

The point most are missing is - WHY IS THERE SUCH IDIOTIC LAWS AS THIS ? An overzealous warden or police officer could technically charge someone with multiple counts of illegally possessing or transporting wild game for taking ( insert any number) jars of canned pheasant, lets say give to grandma. Now you get to hire an attorney, take the day off work, go to court and defend yourself. not to mention that if you and grandma discussed you bringing the pheasant before hand you both could possibly be charged with conspiracy. I know this is far fetched but with idiotic laws like this it could become a reality for someone.

Thats the intention! they set it up so EVERYONE is a criminal, but they dont enforce it until you are targeted or make some govt list for not submitting to their power.

 

[Lycanthrope]

BTW those women who answer the phones the GNF dont know everything, but they insist you talk to them before they will let you talk to a real expert. Ive had them be wrong before, so I called a warden directly and he confirmed I was correct.

 

[NG3067]

lovecatchingbass, sorry I hurt your feelings. I was transferred to the subject area experts, and was actually told by the lady that I was being polite. My whole point of starting my first and last thread was to make people aware that once you process a pheasant according to game and fish it is illegal to transport. Next time I’ll record everything for you so I can show I have politeness and common sense.

 

[Lycanthrope]

lovecatchingbass, sorry I hurt your feelings. I was transferred to the subject area experts, and was actually told by the lady that I was being polite. My whole point of starting my first and last thread was to make people aware that once you process a pheasant according to game and fish it is illegal to transport. Next time I’ll record everything for you so I can show I have politeness and common sense.

Is it illegal to transport on a sandwich? Must you eat it in your home?

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Transportation of canned wild game

Called the NDGF today to ask about how to transport canned(jar or can) pheasant and was told that you must consume (in this case pheasant) where you process it. I told the lady-(politely)that once it’s canned it‘s cooked and you should be able to transport the canned product. No dice. I asked her about transportation canned salmon that I can in Alaska, or a cooler of frozen halibut and she said she wouldn’t answer that question. I finally hung up on her when I told her the law has loopholes and she was snotty like a career government nipple sucker who wouldn’t know a can of pheasant from a can of dog shit. I understand rules, but does anyone talk to real people before they make them?

Yup you were polite I see.
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