DEA is looking to drop marijuana down to a schedule 2 or 3 drug

Ericb

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Ok I'll try and be clearer. Let's say pot is legalized tomorrow, only in natural form buds. Nothing manufacted. Only people 21 and over with a valid state issued ID can purchase. Do you have a issue with this?
 


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The sick suckers in FDA should have nothing to say about what a terminal person in pain can have. Also, I think hemp has some good uses. I don't think it should be legalized. I have sat in court cases and taken people back to jail after. Some sad stories. Lot of theft to get money for pot. I don't know much about it, but I have had people tell me they think extended use has taken a toll on their mental abilities.
 

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For medicinal use.. no

recreational use ..yes

raider, didn't take it any other way, and agree about the feds, just taking an opportunity to share the beef message and promote a little Akushi beef for when ours is ready for sale.Thumbs Up



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Eric, this measure will allow candied gummi bear pot.

Do you have an issue with it?

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/petition-for-proposed-ballot-measure-to-legalize-marijuana-in-north/article_211ef378-b61a-5b0b-a445-0f895531fa21.html

A petition for a proposed ballot measure that would legalize marijuana in North Dakota was submitted Wednesday to the secretary of state’s office.

The committee’s petition for the statutory measure was received by the North Dakota Secretary of State’s office at about 4 p.m. Wednesday.


Group members are looking to remove from North Dakota Century Code all references to marijuana and substances deriving from cannabis as being illegal drugs as well as possession of marijuana paraphernalia.


If approved, the measure would also set a legal age of 21 for possession of marijuana and paraphernalia as well as the growing of it. Taxation of marijuana by local or state government would be capped at 20 percent sales tax.

“We don’t think the reasons for a prohibition are legitimate,” committee chairman Eric Olson of Fargo said in a phone interview.


Olson said smoking marijuana is a lifestyle choice that the public shouldn’t be punished for, adding that it being illegal has led to increased numbers of incarcerated people and an enormous black market for the product.

He referred to arguments about marijuana being dangerous as “propaganda” and said he believes the public has largely become accepting of the substance if given the chance to vote on it.

The secretary of state’s office has five to seven business days to produce a petition title and approve it for style and format. Being a statutory initiative it would require 13,452 legitimate signatures at least 120 days before the election. The deadline for the November election is July 11, 2016.



Olson said the group plans to get the measure on the November ballot.

Wednesday’s measure is the second marijuana initiative submitted for this election cycle.

Last fall a group pushing for a medical marijuana initiative was submitted. After initially being rejected it was approved and signature gathering is underway.


Olson said having two potential marijuana measures on the ballot isn’t a problem. He said people can “vote for one or the other or both.”

Olson said the group will begin to get petition circulators and begin working on a formal campaign after petition approval is granted.

Lawmakers rejected two pieces of medical marijuana legislation last session.

In February a bill to legalize medical marijuana to those with a prescription failed by a 26-67 vote. In March a resolution for an interim study of legalization of medical marijuana for those with serious medical conditions failed by a 32-61 vote
 

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So what's the big deal about gummi bears? Am i missing something here? Is edibles something new? Pot edibles have pretty much been around since, well pot has....scratchin my head on this one....I mean, if cookies and brownies, muffins etc have never been a problem, why all of a sudden are gummi bear edibles the devil? Just trying to understand what the big deal is.
 

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Generally the stoners baking the brownies just ate them now they leave there gummie they were going to eat before going to go drive ready mix truck their kid finds and eats becasue kids think candy is good. If it is legalized I know our insurance will shoot through the roof .that is for recreational use.
 


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The sick suckers in FDA should have nothing to say about what a terminal person in pain can have. Also, I think hemp has some good uses. I don't think it should be legalized. I have sat in court cases and taken people back to jail after. Some sad stories. Lot of theft to get money for pot. I don't know much about it, but I have had people tell me they think extended use has taken a toll on their mental abilities.

They were probably high for so long the forgot they were always that dumb.

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To your question no I would not vote for that bill. I think legalizing medical first and then recreational would give the state time to learn how to manage it.

I'd be interested in some Akushi!
 

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Generally the stoners baking the brownies just ate them now they leave there gummie their kid finds and eats becasue kids think candy is good.

Like anything else Parents should be held equally responsible in this event - Child endangerment.

I've seen PLENTY of parents having a few beers at the game and then driving the kids home - isn't this child endangerment not to mention others on the open road??
 

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Damn... that reminds me. I forgot to mention that red meat deserves the ban hamme next. ;)

they have been trying that for years man. Eat a steak, lower your cholesterol and enjoy. But if you would rather start an initiated measure here in ND to do that..........certainly go ahead, it would be fun to read peoples comments on that. :)

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So what's the big deal about gummi bears? Am i missing something here? Is edibles something new? Pot edibles have pretty much been around since, well pot has....scratchin my head on this one....I mean, if cookies and brownies, muffins etc have never been a problem, why all of a sudden are gummi bear edibles the devil? Just trying to understand what the big deal is.

fish, to borrow an expression from you.....fail.

if it has to be explained to supporters why having a hallucinagenic drug that looks like a childrens candy is a bad idea...............well that speaks volumes.

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Like anything else Parents should be held equally responsible in this event - Child endangerment.

I've seen PLENTY of parents having a few beers at the game and then driving the kids home - isn't this child endangerment not to mention others on the open road??

yep. but once again that beer is not being packaged to look like a kids juice box.

but your scenario brings up an interesting question. If legalized for rec use, will people be rolling a joint and smokin a couple at the ball game and then driving their kids home?
 


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So what's the big deal about gummi bears? Am i missing something here? Is edibles something new? Pot edibles have pretty much been around since, well pot has....scratchin my head on this one....I mean, if cookies and brownies, muffins etc have never been a problem, why all of a sudden are gummi bear edibles the devil? Just trying to understand what the big deal is.

Gummy bears aint just for kids.... I do prefer GUMMY WORMS tho!
 

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I thought this was interesting. It really is amazing it's a Schedule I.

Schedule I
Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:
heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote Schedule II
Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:
Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and RitalinSchedule IIISchedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV. Some examples of Schedule III drugs are:products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosteroneSchedule IV
Schedule IV drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Some examples of Schedule IV drugs are:

Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien, Tramadol
Schedule V
Schedule V drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with lower potential for abuse than Schedule IV and consist of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Schedule V drugs are generally used for antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic purposes. Some examples of Schedule V drugs are:
cough preparations with less than 200 milligrams of codeine or per 100 milliliters (Robitussin AC), Lomotil, Motofen, Lyrica, Parepectolin​

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Sorry for the crappy format ;:;banghead
 

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yep. but once again that beer is not being packaged to look like a kids juice box.

but your scenario brings up an interesting question. If legalized for rec use, will people be rolling a joint and smokin a couple at the ball game and then driving their kids home?

No different then parents cracking a few beers before taking their kids home. In either scenario, they cannot legally drive while under the influence.
 


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yep. but once again that beer is not being packaged to look like a kids juice box.

but your scenario brings up an interesting question. If legalized for rec use, will people be rolling a joint and smokin a couple at the ball game and then driving their kids home?

I don't think public use is allowed in any state so mom and dad puffin away in the stands is unlikely. Although dropping a few gummies before the game is likely. Im just saying go to any softball diamond this summer and see how many dads/moms are pounding a few cold ones after the game and driving the family home..

Not trying to stir the pot, just playing both sides of the street.. Hell Ive seen some hockey parents that I wish would roll up a big cone dog joint of some of the finest broccoli before the game, and then maybe they'll realize they need to let the coach do the coaching and their kid is not the next Gretzky! just sayin
 

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Like anything else Parents should be held equally responsible in this event - Child endangerment.

I've seen PLENTY of parents having a few beers at the game and then driving the kids home - isn't this child endangerment not to mention others on the open road??

If over the legal limit yes. Child endangerment is akin to getting a speeding ticket sad how it really means nothing
 

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No justification for having weed be higher than schedule 3. Caffeinated products should be listed 4 and tobacco should be schedule 3 also IMO.
 

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Is it a hallucinogen?

I don't know from the technical aspect, but if you are jumping of 4th floor balconies after consuming higher rates than you are suppose to................

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That is amazing. Higher than meth and cocaine.

Indeed so lets legalize them to for sure then.

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I mostly don't care what people do in the privacy of their own homes. But beginning to legalize drugs is a BIG social experiment we can not claim to know the end result of if people are going to be honest about it.

30 years ago I would bet the percentage of people okay with legalizing pot for recreational use would have been not too different than what the percentage of people okay with legalizing coke or peyote or amphetamines would be today. Maybe even all drugs.

Don;t think it can happen? Look to the percentage of young people willing to place an avowed Socialist in the office of President and realize those will be the people making these decisions in a few years

My biggest reason for opposition is simply I think it will be used as a stepping stone to open the door to legalize other drugs at some point. When I look at the people at a Bernie Sanders rally..........I don't know that thought is out of line like some claim.

Does anyone think society would really be better off if you could snort a line of coke at the bar legally?

Hell maybe they have a gummi bear form of coke too.
 
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Wagyu beef now I know your on drugs. I'm not buying meat that a single ribeye roast costs the same as a Benelli SBE!
 


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