DEA is looking to drop marijuana down to a schedule 2 or 3 drug

[johnr]

Dope

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them kids are all on dope

 

[gst]

Yes.

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Could could could...yes. will? Doubt it.

Espringers I like your apparent insistence that incrementilization does not impact change.

But I bet your parents 20 years ago would have doubted North Dakotans would be arguing to legalize recreational pot unless they spent time at Woodstock.

But damn look what we are now discussing.

20 years ago we did not have states passing laws stating men must use mens bathrooms and women must use womans bathrooms.

Now this example has little to do with legalizing pot until you tie HOW it is happening together.

So please tell us if you would how we now have states, with more considering it, allowing people of different genders to pick which bathroom they wish to use.

Then explain how in a few short years this nation has an avowed Socialist making a substantial run for president?

Did people just wake up this summer and start thinking hey I want more free stuff from the govt? Or has society incrementally been programed to think govt should have a bigger role in providing them the things they need?

Incrementalism IS real and denying it is takes even more credibility away from this discussion than suggesting legalizing pot may open the door to legalizing other drugs does by a long shot.

 

[Enslow]

Gst is incrementally meeloshing us all isnt he? Answer the question!

 

[701FishSlayer]

Is it incrementalism or is it the fact people are pulling their heads out of the sand more and more? Perhaps it's not incrementalism. Perhaps, it's people views being changed because they were once brain washed like GST about the big bad scary world out there.

 

[TFX 186]

;:;popcorn

 

[Kurtr]

You are so smart and worldly thank you for letting us bask in your enlightened presence........................

 

[espringers]

Even if all of your incrementalism fears were to come to fruition in the next 50 years, do you really think your position on this particular issue is going to hasten the arrival of hell on earth one bit? How's about we deal with the merits of this particular issue? I agree that society is incrementaly changing. But, your insistence on continually invoking the fear on the unknown on every issue you disagree with change on actually hurts your.... credibility.... bruce.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Speaking of 60s and woodstock reminded me why we are having this discussion. The big thing back then was Angel Dust. And rightfully so, everybody was scared of that crap and the reason Nixon made weed schedule one. Angel Dust made people freak out and jump out of windows and the such, They mixed it with with weed and smoked it. If I can remember this, Surely some of you older guys can, It was on the evening news quite often during the Woodstock and the Patty Hearst, Helter skelter era.




Phencyclidine (PCP), also known as angel dust and Sernyl among others,[SUP][3][/SUP] is a dissociative drug. PCP was brought to market in the 1950s as an anesthetic pharmaceutical drug but was taken off the market in 1965 due to the high prevalence of dissociativehallucinogenic side effects. Likewise, ketamine was discovered by Parke-Davis researchers as a better-tolerated derivative for use as an anesthetic pharmaceutical drug. Since this time a number of synthetic derivatives of PCP have been sold as dissociative drugs for recreational and non-medical use.[SUP][4][/SUP]
In chemical structure, PCP is a member of the arylcyclohexylamine class, and, in pharmacology, it is a member of the family ofdissociative anesthetics. PCP works primarily as an NMDA receptor antagonist, where it blocks the activity of the NMDA receptor. As an addictive drug, PCP is associated with compulsive abuse.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]
As a recreational drug, PCP may be ingested orally, smoked, insufflated or injected.[SUP][7][/SUP]

 

[Kurtr]

In 1996 I know there was a mix up in weed sold to some high school kids ended up being laced with PCP. It scared a few straight that's a fact I do know.......

 

[gst]

Is it incrementalism or is it the fact people are pulling their heads out of the sand more and more? Perhaps it's not incrementalism. Perhaps, it's people views being changed because they were once brain washed like GST about the big bad scary world out there.

So you are saying people that have th funny idea that boys should pee in the boys bathroom and girls should pee in the girls bathrooms are just brainwashed idiots and incrementalism is not real

Fish, I gotta tell ya, someone that can not see a potential problem making drugs look like kids candies may not be the best person to lecture others on pulling ones head out of the sand.

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Even if all of your incrementalism fears were to come to fruition in the next 50 years, do you really think your position on this particular issue is going to hasten the arrival of hell on earth one bit? How's about we deal with the merits of this particular issue? I agree that society is incrementaly changing. But, your insistence on continually invoking the fear on the unknown on every issue you disagree with change on actually hurts your.... credibility.... bruce.

Why do we push back against certain changes, because of something that we know will happen with a change and becasue of something we fear may happen with a change. It is called reality. One bases the fear of what MAY happen on his understanding of what IS happening.

It is why I keep mentioning the transgender bathroom bullshit that is going on.

If we had the society today we had in the 50's I would not have a fear all drugs might be legalized. But we don;t do we.

We have a society that thinks it is okay for some transgender pervert pulling his/her dick out to piss in the same bathroom my 10 year old daughter is.

Espringers, perhaps having blind faith in such a society to do the right thing loses you more credibility than any thing.

 

[DirtyMike]

Well considering this is a topic about marijuana being reclassified, maybe you should try starting a transgender bathroom use topic over in the political section.

 

[gst]

Even if all of your incrementalism fears were to come to fruition in the next 50 years, do you really think your position on this particular issue is going to hasten the arrival of hell on earth one bit? .

Hopefully it slows it down just a bit.

Yep life would be far easier sitting on a boat in the middle of a lake fishing waiting for President Sanders to run me out some more free minnows.

But just maybe, my grand kids, and maybe even yours, will be glad SOMEBODY cared enough to stand up and speak out and maybe slow the incrementalism leading this nation down the crapper just a little bit.

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Well considering this is a topic about marijuana being reclassified, maybe you should try starting a transgender bathroom use topic over in the political section.

And it goes right over your head.

 

[DirtyMike]

It's not over my head. I'm just tired of you arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[gst]

funny how not clicking on a thread solves that.

 

[DirtyMike]

I'm interested in the opinions of people on this topic yet you try to steer it in a completely different direction. We know what your opinion is, i.e. The slippery slope mindset, and now you can move on. Not everyone will agree with you. Why don't you understand that? Your like the little brat that pounds his fists until he gets his way.

 

[gst]

Well that is the beauty of the internet, we can choose whether to care what people we have never met nor that have not met us, hiding behind a made up name or dishing out unsigned bad rep say about us or not.

And anyone that thinks everyone will agree with them is an idiot. That is not why I share my comments here.

People can read what is posted and make up their own minds without agreeing with me, espringers, you ...........

But hey, it kinda seems like you might be doing a little "fist pounding" yourself simply because I do not agree with you about this topic.

 

[Davey Crockett]

As bad as I would like to Neg rep you GST I won't do it. Thumbs down though , You really do come across like a spoiled rotten little brat.

 

[Kurtr]

I'm interested in the opinions of people on this topic yet you try to steer it in a completely different direction. We know what your opinion is, i.e. The slippery slope mindset, and now you can move on. Not everyone will agree with you. Why don't you understand that? Your like the little brat that pounds his fists until he gets his way.

That's not fair why are other people's opinions OK to state over and over again.

 

[gst]

Davy, someone that calls people they have never met "greedy bastards" because he doesn;t take the time to learn a few facts and he thinks they got something for nothing (sweetheart deal) when they really didn;t , then falsely accuses someone of editing posts when they have not, all over an internet discussion and a difference of opinion, while jumping in and out making snide little comments to do nothing more than stir the pot, probably should think twice before lecturing others about their behavior, especially of the "bratty" kind.

Say Davy, didn;t you jump on me about this issue without even taking the time to read what was posted? And the funny thing is I support whole heartedly your desire to have medical pot legalized.

And yet because I draw a line at legalizing more recreational drugs having a different opinion than others suddenly I come across like a spoiled brat because of responding to the bratty little quips by others along the way with a bit of sarcasm.

. Well alrighty then.

If people can;t take some sarcasm in a response to their smart ass/sarcastic posts, perhaps internet discussions are not their cup of tea.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Ohh quit feeling sorry for yourself when someone gives you a dose of your own medicine.