DEA is looking to drop marijuana down to a schedule 2 or 3 drug

[arrowdem]

That might constitute child porn.
I heard fagbook wont even allow baby butt pictures. Men using the ladies room is fine, a babies rear, and you are a freak.

Well it was on google so I figured that the Feds wouldn't be after me if Google has it

 

[lunkerslayer]

I love hemp lamp

 

[Kurtr]

Don't go confusing pot smokers with advocates of it, If you think that everyone in favor of legalization is a pot smoker you're dead ass wrong. And what is the right sub forum ?

Politics...... Here is my deal. Medical it has great use and can help. Recreational we already have enough stuff legalized for that. My wife works for child protection and the stories I hear about people who just smoke pot would blow people's minds. I see the stress it puts on her worrying about these kids and the last thing we need is another thing for these pieces of shit to get fucked up on legally. Our legal system is so lax on these people it is amazing. Before my wife had this job I would have said legalize it but her experience have changed my view.

 

[PrairieGhost]

lol oh ya Davy that wasn't aimed at you. No way. Want to buy some swamp land? :::

 

[lunkerslayer]

Forum editorial: ND hemp will make history

North Dakota, which has one of the most diversified crop bases in the nation, will further diversify this spring with the introduction of an industrial hemp crop on small acreages managed by five growers. It’s a first for the state, and it’s historic in that growing hemp, a cousin of marijuana, has been illegal since 1970. Hemp does not contain the levels of THC (the psychoactive compound) of its famous and notorious cousin, but it does have properties that can make it a viable, profitable crop in North Dakota and other states.
Ten members of Milnor (N.D.) High School's 1958 graduating class recently met at one of their favorite haunts while growing up: Broadway in downtown Fargo. In front is Audrey Gaukler, Valley City, N.D. In back from left are: Janice Winkels, Watertown, S.D.; Alice Wehlander, Milnor; Nancy King, Valley City; Helen Busche, Bismarck; Sharon Tschakert, Abercrombie, N.D.; Joanne Johnson, Battle Lake, Minn.; Violet Mahler, Milnor; Marilyn Worner, Mayville, N.D.; and Betty Schoephoerster, Fargo. Submitted photo. Neighbors: Milnor women celebrate 75th birthdays at favorite stomping ground: Broadway in Fargo
The pilot program underway this spring is being strictly policed, so much so that seed entering the country from Canada will be escorted to farms by the N.D. Highway Patrol. While that seems like an overreaction, sensitivity about marijuana taints hemp, even as the hemp plant is not an illegal drug threat. Nonetheless, the state that approved the program, growers and law enforcement are being especially responsible about introduction of the crop to North Dakota.
Hemp indeed has great potential. It does well in northern climates. Its varieties produce either a seed for crushing into oil and meal, or a versatile fiber that can be used to make cloth and other materials. The market for hemp-based products is good.
The hemp introduction has been a long time coming. It took North Dakota and other states to mount a push back to federal prohibitions on marijuana and related plants. The states have had some success, in part because of the experience of Canada, where industrial hemp is grown and marketed. The seed stock for North Dakota will come from Canada.
North Dakota farmers know how to grow crops. They are innovative, resourceful and willing to try new things. The opportunity hemp offers could be significant if the initial small acreages produce as expected. It’s been a good collaborative effort thus far among state officials, potential growers and law enforcement. It’s a small start, but a promising one.


http://www.inforum.com/opinion/editorials/4007017-forum-editorial-nd-hemp-will-make-history

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Hemp Sports Car Rides High On Cross-Country Tour
The list of benefits about the miraculous marijuana plant is seemingly endless. But in case you were looking for yet another entry in your “Pros” column about pot, go ahead and add “hemp sports car!” to the list.

The amazing thing about cannabis is that it’s both a textile and a medicine. “One version gets you high. The other version you can make a car out of. They’re both cannabis,” observes Renew Sports Car President Bruce Dietzen.
If you happened across Renew Sports Cars candy-red whip, little would tell you the car was made of molded, interwoven hemp fibers covered in a super-hard resin.
Your only clue would be a little logo of George Washington blazing a joint on the side panel. (Something to keep in mind if you’re road-trippin’ across state lines in your flashy hemp sports car!)

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[h=1]Hempcrete Could Change The Way We Build Everything[/h]Cannabis gets a lot of press as a recreational drug and medicine, but there’s an industrial side to the plant few know about. Hemp is a remarkably strong and versatile industrial product that comes from the cannabis plant. In fact, it’s so strong, you can build your house out of cannabis bricks made of Hempcrete.Hempcrete is the concrete of cannabis. Made from the cannabis plant and mixed with limestone, Hempcrete bricks make a durable substance that can be an alternative to traditional concrete. Even though wet Hempcrete has a different consistency than concrete, it dries into a super-strong material capable of holding up houses. Strength isn’t the only thing Hempcrete has going for it either. Hempcrete has a high degree of thermal insulation, and it is also fire resistant.Walls made from this material are actually breathable which regulates humidity within the structure. These insulating properties regulate temperature as well.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Politics...... Here is my deal. Medical it has great use and can help. Recreational we already have enough stuff legalized for that. My wife works for child protection and the stories I hear about people who just smoke pot would blow people's minds. I see the stress it puts on her worrying about these kids and the last thing we need is another thing for these pieces of shit to get fucked up on legally. Our legal system is so lax on these people it is amazing. Before my wife had this job I would have said legalize it but her experience have changed my view.

I certainly won't argue the point of Child protection, Your answer carries more merit than anything else I have heard on here. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids , booze, cars , guns or freedom but that's a subject all in itself. The middle ground here would be medical legalization without big pharma involved, I'm sure that is what was in the books a couple years ago when the football team fumbled the signatures and that should surface again. The only thing I wonder is if it would it matter one way or the other if it was legal or not to a POS. ? Not worth taking a chance but it's a logical question.

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lol oh ya Davy that wasn't aimed at you. No way. Want to buy some swamp land? :::

Haha, I'm practicing the ignore and pretend method of communication , Let's see how well that works.

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Lunker, Not sure if you have looked much at hempcrete but I'd like to try to combine the shotcrete method with hempcrete using a slip form , If a person had a good delivery system for the material I'd think 4 guys could pour the outside walls of a house in a couple long days. On a shoestring.

 

[Kurtr]

I certainly won't argue the point of Child protection, Your answer carries more merit than anything else I have heard on here. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids , booze, cars , guns or freedom but that's a subject all in itself. The middle ground here would be medical legalization without big pharma involved, I'm sure that is what was in the books a couple years ago when the football team fumbled the signatures and that should surface again. The only thing I wonder is if it would it matter one way or the other if it was legal or not to a POS. ? Not worth taking a chance but it's a logical question.

In reality probably not but maybe it might help one kid which in the millions of abused kids ain't much but one is better than zero. Keep big pharma out,regulate to help people who need help I would vote for that and make people who abuse it really pay a price

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I certainly won't argue the point of Child protection, Your answer carries more merit than anything else I have heard on here. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids , booze, cars , guns or freedom but that's a subject all in itself. The middle ground here would be medical legalization without big pharma involved, I'm sure that is what was in the books a couple years ago when the football team fumbled the signatures and that should surface again. The only thing I wonder is if it would it matter one way or the other if it was legal or not to a POS. ? Not worth taking a chance but it's a logical question.

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Haha, I'm practicing the ignore and pretend method of communication , Let's see how well that works.

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Lunker, Not sure if you have looked much at hempcrete but I'd like to try to combine the shotcrete method with hempcrete using a slip form , If a person had a good delivery system for the material I'd think 4 guys could pour the outside walls of a house in a couple long days. On a shoestring.

Now we are talking what I know. Shot Crete is cool stuff just the machine and labor involved is quite alot so it might take awhile for an ROI but would be interesting with the hempcrete. I will look at that becasue everything i have ever learned plant material and concrete dont mix.With icf forms now I would think it's cheaper and easier going that route. Anyone who has ever played with Lego's can put them up.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Kurtr that tid bit on hempcrete was for you hehe #$%^&>
Yes Davey hempcrete is just one possibility for the hemp plant for building of eco friendly homes :;:rockit

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Because Kurtr I know you work with concrete and business opportunities are out there for the taking, but you have to be willing to open one's mind to all aspects when it comes to the plant with over 1500 different strains of genomes.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Kurtr that tid bit on hempcrete was for you hehe #$%^&>
Yes Davey hempcrete is just one possibility for the hemp plant for building of eco friendly homes :;:rockit

The laws are so goofy otherwise I'd plant an acre of hemp just to fiddle around with it , I think there is more potential for hemp lumber and other building materials. hempcrete has potential but it has a long ways to go. If a person could make it as strong as portland you would be a rich person.

 

[Ericb]

It will be interesting to see how many of these hemp products beet out more traditional products. I used to believe they were just creations by pot smoking hippies to glorify there special little plant. Just imagine the world completely made out of renewable hemp and Sak full of genetically modified salmon. Life would be good!

 

[lunkerslayer]

It will be interesting to see how many of these hemp products beet out more traditional products. I used to believe they were just creations by pot smoking hippies to glorify there special little plant. Just imagine the world completely made out of renewable hemp and Sak full of genetically modified salmon. Life would be good!

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The laws are so goofy otherwise I'd plant an acre of hemp just to fiddle around with it , I think there is more potential for hemp lumber and other building materials. hempcrete has potential but it has a long ways to go. If a person could make it as strong as portland you would be a rich person.

Davey, if you ever get a chance to head up north to Canada for a tour of the industries they have the equipment they use for cultivation. It will absolutely blow your mind.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Does anyone know if the plant at wahpeton is still making particle board ? I stopped there many years ago in hopes of a glimpse of the operation but they were shut down. You could make a crapload of particle board off a quarter of hemp and still have the seeds for a cash crop

 

[gst]

Kids showing up with it being a big thing in denver is laughable. My sister isn't into smoking it but it very pro legalizing it. Oh and she's also a pediatric doctor in Denver.;:;blahblah

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/28/unintentional-marijuana-exposures-up-in-colorado-kids/

http://www.cpr.org/news/story/denver-emergency-room-doctor-seeing-more-patients-marijuana-edibles

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health...poising-in-kids-increases-in-colorado-052813/

Perhaps if it is one of your kids visiting the neighbors it would not be so "laughable".

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10 minutes! You must have some plants growing out in your pasture!

I agree with the edibles. Eating it makes it harder to control the effects vs smoking. A good reason legalizing/ controlling makes sense.

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A fella can drive to other peoples houses in 10 minutes.

The point here is prior to legalization Colorado did not have issues with kids being affected by edibles such as gummi bear weed. Now they do.

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lol oh ya Davy that wasn't aimed at you. No way. Want to buy some swamp land? :::

Ah plainsman, YOU more than anyone should know if I accuse some one of lying they know THEY are the one being accused.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Davey, if you ever get a chance to head up north to Canada for a tour of the industries they have the equipment they use for cultivation. It will absolutely blow your mind.[/QUOTE]


What do they have that is out of the ordinary ? I watched them on the Prairie farm report and they had a JD combine with a straight header for the seed harvest.

 

[Ericb]

Gst said:
The point here is prior to legalization Colorado did not have issues with kids being affected by edibles such as gummi bear weed. Now they do.

So you agree that if edibles were not legal the reward would out way the risk

 

[lunkerslayer]

Hemp Plastic
Hemp plastic is a bioplastic made using industrial hemp. There are many different types of hemp plastic; from standard plastics reinforced with hemp fibers, to a 100% hemp plastic made entirely from the hemp plant. Hemp plastic is recyclable and can be manufactured to be 100% biodegradable. The most common type of hemp plastics are those plastics which infuse hemp fibers. The benefit of infusing hemp fibers lies in that less plastic is used (less oil, lesspollution) and a more durable, biodegradable product is created. Sometimes,the oil used in conventional plastics can also be replaced with renewable resource feedstocks including cellulose from hemp, microbially-grown polymers, or those extracted from starch.
Hemp plastic can be five times stiffer and 2.5 times stronger than polypropylene (PP) plastic. It also does not pose the health and safety risks associated with certain plastics that are reinforced with glass fibers. Hemp plastic has the ability of being implemented in standard injection molding machines with no modifications needed
Take a moment and look around you right now. How many things do you notice that are made from plastic? The possibilities for hemp plastic are endless

 

[Davey Crockett]

Be fun to know what method Henry used

 

[man in the box]

Some people just won't understand the benefits as a whole to legalizing it and be done with the problem...hemp for industrial use and THC for the calming affect, not to mention the cannibinoids that the medical MJ is focused around. I haven't smoked for a number of years, but my "vice" was to smoke. My family has a history of alcohol addiction with my dad, uncle, aunt, grandparents, etc. dying because of ailments related to drinking...and we are worried about pot??? It is not the "Devil's Lettuce" that you were taught. If you want to make a dent in the drug use across America, Doctor's should be highly scrutinized on handing out pain pills (pick your name out of the group), which leads to a dependency on opiates and when that prescription is over and the patient is still hooked, they turn to street opiates (ie heroin). Doubt this will matter to some, but this is coming from real world experience and not something that was told by a teacher or lectured by a parent.

 

[Kurtr]

Some people just won't understand the benefits as a whole to legalizing it and be done with the problem...hemp for industrial use and THC for the calming affect, not to mention the cannibinoids that the medical MJ is focused around. I haven't smoked for a number of years, but my "vice" was to smoke. My family has a history of alcohol addiction with my dad, uncle, aunt, grandparents, etc. dying because of ailments related to drinking...and we are worried about pot??? It is not the "Devil's Lettuce" that you were taught. If you want to make a dent in the drug use across America, Doctor's should be highly scrutinized on handing out pain pills (pick your name out of the group), which leads to a dependency on opiates and when that prescription is over and the patient is still hooked, they turn to street opiates (ie heroin). Doubt this will matter to some, but this is coming from real world experience and not something that was told by a teacher or lectured by a parent.

The calming effect you mean like smoking enough so you don't see your kid fall out of the third story window. This is real world experience not something told by a teacher or lectured by a parent. You try to paint a picture of roses and unicorns but fail to see the other side to.

 

[gst]

Gst said:
The point here is prior to legalization Colorado did not have issues with kids being affected by edibles such as gummi bear weed. Now they do.

So you agree that if edibles were not legal the reward would out way the risk

Medical pot controlled like other prescription drugs should be legal. Davy, I can't say it any plainer.

The "reward" for legalizing recreational pot is still up for discovery.

Ya, supposedly taxes paid by users will pay for treatment instead of others taxes paid for incarceration (not many users actually do jail time).

Supposedly drug use drops as these tax dollars are used to better educate people against usage.

the "risk"..........long term none of this works like proponents claim,

The longer term reality not yet seen may likely be pot dealers that are not "in" on the new legal system will turn to dealing other drugs. (they are not going to just go get a job at Footlocker)

Higher and higher taxes on the product to pay for costs not foreseen will lead to black market "legal" pot with a different set of law enforcement issues.

Over crowding in jails will not change much because the reality is not that many pot users were being incarcerated long term, and the dealers will now be being arrested for dealing other drugs that are not legal.

People will begin to suggest well in order for this to work, ALL drugs should be legalized, taxed and regulated.

kids are negatively impacted by society making another drug usage socially acceptable decreasing the societal stigma against drug usage.

tax revenues are never enough as new issues come to light.

This is a rather large social experiment that if not handled correctly could have long term negatives not foreseen. And when kids are eating candied gummi bear pot and ending up in ER's it is not being handled correctly.

And when some proponents are not willing to own that responsibility, it gives one pause to think it will be handled correctly.

That is my point.

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The calming effect you mean like smoking enough so you don't see your kid fall out of the third story window. This is real world experience not something told by a teacher or lectured by a parent. You try to paint a picture of roses and unicorns but fail to see the other side to.

And that is my point. There IS another side that people that deal with the consequences like kurts wife and my friends in law enforcement see. Things that affect tragically more than just the user.

alcohol and tobacco are legal and as people have shared there is many issues with them. pot is going to be no different.

and when people want to gloss over that or ignore it just to make it legal................