Improving the PLOTS program

[tman]

If funding is not the issue its just getting good acres enrolled they need to start working with the farmers and ranchers to fully pay for some shelterbelt or if pasture pay them to fence it off into different sections and give them a crp payment type deal for them to leave a different section go every year and just let the grass grow so it holds wildlife. And if its farm land they need to give them a payment to pay for some of the crop and let it stand for a food plot and once the rest of crop is harvested that section of standing crop could be hunted. All off this would have to be with some extened contracts signed of course couldn't just go pay for belts and fence then 2 years later take it out of plots. I don't know if it would work or not could be a dumb idea just throwing some more ideas out there

 

[Ericb]

That sounds like quite the system you are promoting Only those that can afford to pay get to hunt land that is partially paid for by public funds

Maybe we should ask that they exept EBT cards?

 

[Obi-Wan]

Maybe we should ask that they exept EBT cards?

If it's being paid for with public funds why should it not be open to all. If a bunch of you guys want to pool your money and rent your own private hunting sanctuary have at it but if it's just for the wealthy it should be done without public funds

 

[Kurtr]

That sounds like quite the system you are promoting Only those that can afford to pay get to hunt land that is partially paid for by public funds

Well when you only get a deer licence every four years there should not be pressure. I would keep all plots in the pembina valley open to pheasant hunting for every one that would be wrong to deny any one that greatness

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The fish are not biting on oahe but NDA is hot

 

[Fritz the Cat]

You guys aren't thinking big enough.......

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Monday, July 12, 2010
DU Says Open Fields Will Maintain Hunting Traditions
BISMARCK, NORTH DAKOTA - Ducks Unlimited's support for a new federal program is starting to pay off with more opportunities for hunters, which will help maintain the country's hunting traditions. Under a recently launched U.S. Department of Agriculture initiative called Open Fields, landowners can receive a financial incentive in exchange for opening lands to the public for outdoor recreation.

"Open Fields gives landowners one more incentive to share with hunters the habitat they're conserving and encourages landowners to use best-management practices for maintaining that habitat," said Dr. Scott Stephens, DU director of conservation planning for Ducks Unlimited's Great Plains Region.

Plans for the legislation were originally announced in Ducks Unlimited's Great Plains Regional Office by its sponsor, U.S. Sen. Kent Conrad (ND). Approved in the 2008 Farm Bill, Open Fields will provide $50 million for states to create or expand voluntary hunter-access programs on private lands. DU worked with partners in the wildlife community to support the measure in Congress and obtain funding for it. Estimates are Open Fields could open more than 4 million new acres of private land to public hunting and fishing annually.

 

[gst]

If funding is not the issue its just getting good acres enrolled they need to start working with the farmers and ranchers to fully pay for some shelterbelt or if pasture pay them to fence it off into different sections and give them a crp payment type deal for them to leave a different section go every year and just let the grass grow so it holds wildlife. And if its farm land they need to give them a payment to pay for some of the crop and let it stand for a food plot and once the rest of crop is harvested that section of standing crop could be hunted. All off this would have to be with some extened contracts signed of course couldn't just go pay for belts and fence then 2 years later take it out of plots. I don't know if it would work or not could be a dumb idea just throwing some more ideas out there

The CRP contracts actually started out allowing it and the NWF sued to end end that and ended up with instead of an every three years grazing or 1/3, it was every 10 years. It was a BIG reason many did not reenroll CRP.

Many on the old outdoors sites defended this lawsuit and the typical rhetoric was a part of it. That is the problem, these wildlife and sportsmen orgs that really do not represent or allow everyday sportsmen to have a say try to control these programs.

Figure out how to stop that and you may get support for these programs and ideas.

 

[NodakBuckeye]

DU.... a clever way to get average guys to donate time and money so that the well healed have nicer places to hunt. Haha

While we are at it, how about we have a stamp to pay those with working state school trust lands to stop using them and let them grow habitat?

 

[AR-15]

Why they don't have $0.00 in the vote, it would win hands down

 

[Obi-Wan]

Why they don't have $0.00 in the vote, it would win hands down

If you would vote $0 your opinion is not wanted in this poll

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[Walleye_Chaser]

As the owner of about 180 acres enrolled in PLOTS, I'll add the things that get me on the phone to the Game Warden:
1. Driving into my pastures after your deer.
2. Driving across hilly cultivated land to get to my PLOTS acres.
3. Looking at your host through your rifle scope.

COMPLETE IDIOTS. These are the assholes that make real sportsman get a bad rep.

 

[Obi-Wan]

But this will all be corrected with a plots stamp.

Originally Posted by Norske As the owner of about 180 acres enrolled in PLOTS, I'll add the things that get me on the phone to the Game Warden:
1. Driving into my pastures after your deer.
2. Driving across hilly cultivated land to get to my PLOTS acres.
3. Looking at your host through your rifle scope.

COMPLETE IDIOTS. These are the assholes that make real sportsman get a bad rep.

 

[deleted_account]

As the owner of about 180 acres enrolled in PLOTS, I'll add the things that get me on the phone to the Game Warden:
1. Driving into my pastures after your deer.
2. Driving across hilly cultivated land to get to my PLOTS acres.
3. Looking at your host through your rifle scope.

the stupidity of some never ceases to amaze me.

haha neg rep. must've upset one these idiots. yes looking at people through a rifle scope is about as stupid as it gets. neg rep away

 

[ndlongshot]

Fritz,

Never heard of this open fields thing. What ever happened with it? I'd like to hear more. Not a lot of details on how it would operate/how it would be funded in the article.

Whats your take on it? Sounds intriguing to me, but like I said, devils in the details.

 

[Walleye_Chaser]

LOL neg rep for what...

Also, I wonder how many people actually know that PLOTS are walk in access only (unless you have specific permission from land owner) This includes retrieving downed game!

 

[Obi-Wan]

Usually it is the ones that feel they are privileged that disregard rules or leave a mess while hunting both private and public.

LOL neg rep for what...

Also, I wonder how many people actually know that PLOTS are walk in access only (unless you have specific permission from land owner) This includes retrieving downed game!

 

[deleted_account]

We sort of already have the optional plots donation with the deer tag fee if you dont draw. maybe they could expand on that, just have an optional donation (stamp) to plots when you buy your license. If you want to donate great, if not, great. I'd venture to guess most would be willing to chip in.

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no special treatment for those that do buy or dont buy. Just another way to make revenue for the program if people so choose. simple as that

 

[WormWiggler]

maybe everyone should just get chipped, then you swipe your credit card at a kiosk for the times and locations you are hunting... if you don't pay a drone zips in and smokes your scurvy ass...

I had a story relayed to me about the Montana program. Hunter had signed in and was hunting the set area, landowner showed up, told him the better deer are over there on the non program land... Handed him a bunch of sign up sheets and said you can hunt there if you fill out all these.. I believe the rancher gets reimbursed for each form.... probably just a rogue landowner... as most wear halos..

 

[PrairieGhost]

haha neg rep. must've upset one these idiots. yes looking at people through a rifle scope is about as stupid as it gets. neg rep away

OK then I'll go for the negative rep with you Wags. All these things are stupid, but looking at me through their scope is a pet peeve of mine. They should have the barrel wrapped around their empty head.

I have more land than I could hunt in ten lifetimes. However, I hate to see am American tradition die so I would pay $20 maybe even $50 for the rest of you guys if they used it on land that actually held wildlife. The current PLOTS I have seen to much fallow ground that would not support a field mouse. Don't purchase hunting on land that has no opportunity simply to get acres. I suppose a county commissioner or someone with clout pushed the Game and Fish into paying him for crap. Washington DC is not the only swamp that needs to be drained.

 

[deleted member]

wags, i am guessing the neg rep came from norske because of a misunderstanding. he probably thought you were referring to him as "stupid". just my guess.

 

[deleted_account]

As the owner of about 180 acres enrolled in PLOTS, I'll add the things that get me on the phone to the Game Warden:
1. Driving into my pastures after your deer.
2. Driving across hilly cultivated land to get to my PLOTS acres.
3. Looking at your host through your rifle scope.

ok, just so there's no confusion. I think everything you listed is a perfect example of people going full retard. i totally agree with you and i would be calling the game warden asap as well. Pointing a rifle at someone really makes my skin crawl. yeesh