M3, yea or nay?

[db-2]

My drug of choice was beer as there was no pot until i was in my twenties. When young the hard stuff was either drank straight or with little mix and one to many times sick so even the smell of hard liquor gets to me today.
My experience with pot heads was in a so call conflict zone in se asia and that experience was not good with them and their buddies. Always needed a bubby for pot and if you could not find one you became a pusher to get one. A lot of fresh 18-19 year old new boots to chose from. Seen the recruitment of pets if needed for a pot head buddy.


But one question.
When we sat in a group and I drank my beer and all the rest smoked their weed why did the pot heads start laughing at any moment? I just felt left out on so many occasions. Can anyone answer that for me as I have try to understand for the last 50 years?
Maybe that would at least give me some insight to pot. Never try it and probably never will. (hey I got old mill, what more can one want for in life, and I have function on that all my life and continue to do so today). db
ps
I do support the use of any drug if it will help one out (and medical pot does) and do not understand why we can not grow hemp but seem to be able to legalize pot with a vote. what's the difference?

 

[Glass]

Not sure if true, but i seen somewhere earlier there are 177k people that are supposedly eligible for the expungement. I don't think any of those guys will be voting no.

Jeez, that means that about 24% of the population has charges. Man that would be a huge lift to them and potentially our state if they could get that off their record. Weren't some of you guys talking about Judge K and how it happened so long ago, why should we care about it since it was 30 years ago. I am not sure if the same people are saying they dont like the expungement or not, just an observation.

 

[Enslow]

The lack of knowledge on this topic is a good thing to a degree. It means that many have not smelled what I have smelled... meaning the stench of opioid lies and manipulations. Night night!

 

[LBrandt]

What this turns into will be that the poor man pays the band while the rich man dances. Just my 2 cents.

 

[CatDaddy]

I'm amazed at how close this poll is given the clear divide in the original post months ago.....forgot how the legislature ignored your voice on medical? To me this is easy.....now a bunch of "fake news" on how this will ruin our state has folks scared. Many of the arguments against it are the same that could be made about beer and it's silly. Tell me how this is different than prohibition and I'll listen. Blue num nums for all who reply....

REMINDER: It was an utter and disgraceful ignorance of what the people of ND voted for. Sick and sad situation....now you're going to stand on a soapbox about how it will ruin our state? It's already happened if we allow old, white, entitled congressmen to decide what we REALLY need.....AKA blue law. Yes, our wives should be making us breakfast in bed instead of wasting our hard-earned money shopping Sunday morning. What a joke. It was said and it happened. Look it up and watch it....what a disgrace and embarrassment to the legal process.

 

[Wags2.0]

I'm amazed at how close this poll is given the clear divide in the original post months ago.....forgot how the legislature ignored your voice on medical? To me this is easy.....now a bunch of "fake news" on how this will ruin our state has folks scared. Many of the arguments against it are the same that could be made about beer and it's silly. Tell me how this is different than prohibition and I'll listen. Blue num nums for all who reply....

REMINDER: It was an utter and disgraceful ignorance of what the people of ND voted for. Sick and sad situation....now you're going to stand on a soapbox about how it will ruin our state? It's already happened if we allow old, white, entitled congressmen to decide what we REALLY need.....AKA blue law. Yes, our wives should be making us breakfast in bed instead of wasting our hard-earned money shopping Sunday morning. What a joke. It was said and it happened. Look it up and watch it....what a disgrace and embarrassment to the legal process.

Im pro m3, but what? Your first paragraph made some sense but not the second. Would it be better if a black or Hispanic or Asian made the laws? Also, I love breakfast in bed so don’t you go petitioning to outlaw that. I still do enjoy my Don Draper-esque lifestyle on occasion

 

[shorthairsrus]

Pot =anti social drug Imo. I have been legally on some on fentenal and Michael j drug comatized 5 days straight to all I can say is that hangover ( no pain) but some weird severe withdrawals. I never want to live through again no thanks. I will stick to beer. Thank you. Busch lattes

 

[Achucker]

Yes you could say that alcohol is no different. And look at all the problems that has caused. All the families destroyed people killed in car wrecks. The list goes on. I'm not saying the same result will happen with weed and I acknowledge that it was the person that drank and not the booze. What I am saying that most people have addictive behaviors and this would make one more thing ok/legal
. Why stop here. Make all opioids legal without a prescription and let people use them "responsibly". After all it's our right.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I'm amazed at how close this poll is given the clear divide in the original post months ago

Same here. If it's close on here it's going down.

 

[Twitch]

Yes you could say that alcohol is no different. And look at all the problems that has caused. All the families destroyed people killed in car wrecks. The list goes on. I'm not saying the same result will happen with weed and I acknowledge that it was the person that drank and not the booze. What I am saying that most people have addictive behaviors and this would make one more thing ok/legal
. Why stop here. Make all opioids legal without a prescription and let people use them "responsibly". After all it's our right.

Im pretty sure the pro 3 crowd has said their point is pot has had not nearly the negative side effects and connotations that alcohol or other drugs have had on our society. There is no safe way to use opioids or cocaine etc. The use of other drugs has severe consequences on others around the user while pot doesn’t. Well other than guywhowaitsforsausages had the wrong hotdog brought to him one time. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out in the end

Please don’t think this is me standing up for somebody smoking on the job. Moreso just saying I think people would be surprised how many “responsible” people they know in a lot of professions who may smoke a bit to unwind instead of crushing a twelver of blue nummies as you guys call them and going to work hungover the next day.

 

[westwolfone]

Same here. If it's close on here it's going down.

The way this poll is going as well as some of the recent responses shows that the well funded "Reefer Madness" anti's are getting their message across. Lots of ignorance just ripe to be exploited in North Dakota.

The only thing the average person can do is keep an open mind and vote what they feel is best for them and theirs. Both sides are driven by the almighty dollar, and their campaigning reflects that.

 

[Bfishn]

Yes you could say that alcohol is no different. And look at all the problems that has caused. All the families destroyed people killed in car wrecks. The list goes on. I'm not saying the same result will happen with weed and I acknowledge that it was the person that drank and not the booze. What I am saying that most people have addictive behaviors and this would make one more thing ok/legal
. Why stop here. Make all opioids legal without a prescription and let people use them "responsibly". After all it's our right.

Most people have addictive behaviors? That's a bit of a reach. I would say most people can handle alcohol, weed, gambling perfectly fine. You have about 10% of the adult population that has had an issue at some point, and that includes illicit drugs. Comparing weed to Opioids is dumb.

 

[JayKay]

Not sure if true, but i seen somewhere earlier there are 177k people that are supposedly eligible for the expungement. I don't think any of those guys will be voting no.

I am not saying that they're all felons, but if they are, do they still have the right to vote? I don't know. Honestly asking.

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Most people have addictive behaviors? That's a bit of a reach. I would say most people can handle alcohol, weed, gambling perfectly fine. You have about 10% of the adult population that has had an issue at some point, and that includes illicit drugs. Comparing weed to Opioids is dumb.

I don't know that I'd say most people have addictive traits, but a lot do. Maybe more than people realize or are willing to admit. If you look at the numbers in treatment (I'm not looking, by the way) you'd likely find only a small percentage of people who actually do need treatment.

I'd liken it to the amount of people in jail, versus the amount of people who commit some sort of crime. With a narrow view of criminals, you'd have to agree that a very small percentage are actually in jail.

I also find it interesting that there are many here who are pro-3, and say that those who are against 3 are ignorant. I'm paraphrasing, but I hear "The ignorant are ripe for manipulation.".

If I was ignorant about this, I would not care. It's my lack of ignorance that makes me sure how I'll vote.

Just because someone disagrees with your opinion does not make them ignorant. As a matter of fact, someone disagreeing with you should make you take a look in the mirror - right?

 

[Obi-Wan]

So now I am a ignorant exploited deplorable clinging to my guns and religion

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The way this poll is going as well as some of the recent responses shows that the well funded "Reefer Madness" anti's are getting their message across. Lots of ignorance just ripe to be exploited in North Dakota.

The only thing the average person can do is keep an open mind and vote what they feel is best for them and theirs. Both sides are driven by the almighty dollar, and their campaigning reflects that.

 

[guywhofishes]

So now I am a ignorant exploited deplorable clinging to my guns and religion

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ha ha ha... yep - we're all ignernts following greed without rekoning on it

derp... I feel perty stoopid now

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Most people have addictive behaviors? That's a bit of a reach. I would say most people can handle alcohol, weed, gambling perfectly fine. You have about 10% of the adult population that has had an issue at some point, and that includes illicit drugs. Comparing weed to Opioids is dumb.

porn... shopping... gambling... working out... smartphones.... it's truer than a person realizes

we are, as a species, highly prone to addictive behaviors IMO

 

[Bfishn]

porn... shopping... gambling... working out... smartphones.... it's truer than a person realizes

we are, as a species, highly prone to addictive behaviors IMO

So should all those things be outlawed? Basically i think the argument here is weed is less an issue than many things that are currently legal. Most people that want to smoke already do except for those normal law abiding citizens who want to use it medically or for occasional relaxation. If our leaders wouldn't have fucked up the medical thing so bad, this wouldn't even be on the ballot. A guy with cancer still cant legally smoke after 2 years of medical passing. Its time to kick these leaders in the nuts.

 

[guywhofishes]

I'm sorry - did I say they should be outlawed? Just examples of how addiction-prone we are.

When the state got into the gambling business a long time ago I about puked.

Hey - maybe we should have ND State weed stores? Like some states/cities do with the liquor stores.

 

[Fly Carpin]

But one question.
When we sat in a group and I drank my beer and all the rest smoked their weed why did the pot heads start laughing at any moment? I just felt left out on so many occasions. Can anyone answer that for me as I have try to understand for the last 50 years?

Your fly was down.

 

[Davey Crockett]

So should all those things be outlawed? Basically i think the argument here is weed is less an issue than many things that are currently legal. Most people that want to smoke already do except for those normal law abiding citizens who want to use it medically or for occasional relaxation. If our leaders wouldn't have fucked up the medical thing so bad, this wouldn't even be on the ballot. A guy with cancer still cant legally smoke after 2 years of medical passing. Its time to kick these leaders in the nuts.

THIS I feel like we are playing with fire here and trying to decide if we should pour gas or water on it. We rely on these employees to serve the majority of the voters and here we are waiting two years after giving them a project that they didn't want to do so they screwed that project up beyond repair just in spite. We still want that job done so we put a little pressure on them and now they start lying and wasting our money because they didn't want to do the original job. These people are our employees, They are working against us . We either dunk their head in the toilet and put the fire out and show them who's boss or we let it slide and watch the flame get bigger when they are giving each others high fives . It's bullshit If you can't see what they are doing your blind. We are all partners in this business we call North Dakota , If we don't keep our employees in line we are heading for trouble.
We are in control of our own destiny , Letting them run the business the way they seem fit is a recipe for disaster .

 

[guywhofishes]

I agree wholeheartedly that the legislature either willfully or carelessly crapped the medical MJ down their leg which resulted in a slap in the face to the voters

I too am conflicted

^^^ I'm just leery of being that guy