ND zebra mussels

[Lycanthrope]

I'm not willing to fund the inevitable. I too will contact my legislators if these straw-grasp ideas gain too much traction.

Exactly, some people think money grows on trees or something. Want the govt to protect them, but not willing to do much themselves. Im thinking AZM (anti zebra mussel) people on here could form a club and donate their time to prevent the spread of ANS instead of expecting everyone else to pay for it... :;:cheers I wanna transport my fish in my livewell again, is that too much to ask?

 

[svnmag]

Pointed stick.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Exactly, some people think money grows on trees or something. Want the govt to protect them, but not willing to do much themselves. Im thinking AZM (anti zebra mussel) people on here could form a club and donate their time to prevent the spread of ANS instead of expecting everyone else to pay for it... :;:cheers I wanna transport my fish in my livewell again, is that too much to ask?

You won't be transporting fish in your live well for the rest of your life. Wise man said: unless you are making a living being an asshole, one must probably not.

 

[svnmag]

That was indeed quite the zinger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90gDL_1A_nc

 

[gonefshn]

I am posting this thread to report what is and is not being done to protect ND waters from zebra mussel infestation. I fish alot in ND from small stocked lakes, to Oahe, to sakak, and mainly Devils lake. I have been checked by two different game wardens this spring and neither checked for Aquatic Nuisance Species on my boat or mentioned the risk of the problem coming into the state. I am very concerned about zebra mussels so i called Greg Power last week in Bismarck who is the fisheries Chief. I reported that i am not seeing law enforcement checking boats and bait containers for ANS. I also asked what is being planned for wash stations and checkpoints for ANS. The answer was that there are lots of meetings happening and there are a couple of summer employees providing ANS education at "popular" boat ramps. There are no plans to require boat inspections like our neighboring states to the West require. I believe that ground zero for the invasion of zebra mussels will be devils lake. If devils lake gets them you can bet it will spread to nearly all waters in ND because many fish devils lake as well as other bodies of water. 40 percent of the fisherman coming to Devils lake are from MN and Wisconsin according to Power. I strongly encourage everyone who loves the amazing fishing in ND to contact the NDGF and voice their concerns about zebra mussels. IMO there should be mandatory boat inspections and checkpoints on hwy 2, hwy 281, and hwy 20 as those are the main roads into Devils lake. New rules and regs mean nothing without enforcement.

Whew.... I was worried nothing was being done. I bet those Zebra mussels are shaking in their shells knowing "lots of meetings are happening".

 

[Pinecone]

control your border better and Keep that sh#t up there:;:duel

 

[Enslow]

A solution will probably have to come from the people by way of the legislature. I will call mine and see what they think. Are we willing to fund this type of thing ourselves? That's about the only way it is going to happen.

Hahaha look at the dollars coming into the state because of the fishing. Funding is not an issue.

- - - Updated - - -

I'm not willing to fund the inevitable. I too will contact my legislators if these straw-grasp ideas gain too much traction.

As big of an idiot and negative nancy as YOU are it doesnt surprise me that you would lay over and take it right in the @ss.

 

[Account Deleted]

Hahaha look at the dollars coming into the state because of the fishing. Funding is not an issue.

- - - Updated - - -



As big of an idiot and negative nancy as YOU are it doesnt surprise me that you would lay over and take it right in the @ss.

it will still require a stamp or something that all boat owners would have to pay. Residents would have to have some skin in the game. That's all I meant.

 

[You]

Look around, pull up a map, one can only hope to delay the spread. By how much? Not too sure. And what's a 'delay' worth? Money wise and Hastle. Obviously much less than being able to keep them out.

We have too much water to police and too many people coming and going. Heck, catfish are more popular every year as of late, and plenty of locals are putting boats in and out of the red. Wanna bet these locals swing over to DL every so often?

if Devils is chemically conducive to zm survival and reproduction, it HAS to be the most probable body of water for them to show up in next.

the hard water only hotspots should be able to delay invasion much longer, but the tourist lakes are officially fighting an uphill battle. Zm are on our doorstep.

I support scientific research into the matter, not checkpoints, decontamination sites, and more laws.

 

[svnmag]

I believe YOU to be in the extreme minority opinion according to this thread; that said, being with the majority doesn't automatically make one correct. He presents valid points for consideration.

 

[shorthairsrus]

Raise license fee for blue and white plates take proceeds to hire colle gf e kids to spray down boats on dl

 

[Lycanthrope]

I believe YOU to be in the extreme minority opinion according to this thread; that said, being with the majority doesn't automatically make one correct. He presents valid points for consideration.

Im with YOU on this one, makes a lot more sense than throwing millions of dollars and a bunch of restrictive regulations at something that is going to happen anyway. Plus it would make spear fishing a lot more fun if you could see more than 2 feet in the local lakes....

 

[svnmag]

Anyways, my thoughts on this issue are totally armchair: Gobies spawn in open, deep water which would substitute for smelt in low water years and they eat zebra mussels. In my pessimistic view of inevitability; putting them in place FIRST would both provide forage and defense.

The Ringneck Pheasant is invasive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M740wdW9EG0

 

[Hornhunter]

The salmon fishing on lake michigan has taken a huge hit from zebra mussels. Lake winnipeg does not have a the infestation yet like the great lakes. IT blows my mind that peoples thinking can be so obtuse as to think that zebra mussels could somehow help a great fishing lake.

I agree with u 100%. This is priority number1. Number 2 would be to put in place slot limits on all ND waters haha. As for lake Michigan, I have been fishing there for years and the salmon fishing has been awesome.

 

[shorthairsrus]

Devils lake or sak/oahe r not lake Michigan or Erie. We have plankton eaters shrimp in dl. We don't need any more

- - - Updated - - -

Smelt numbers r down in the great Lakes due to the mussels. I have a solution. No non resident boats period. Idaho has a guy sitting at the borders. I counted 20 sconis on the way up tonite

- - - Updated - - -

;:;barf

 

[SDMF]

5 'Sconi boats @ one of the rental cabins tonight. Anywhere in Devils to hire a Ninja and equip him/her with a valve stem removal tool? $$ and contact info appreciated.

 

[KDM]

Google "Zebra Mussel Effects on Walleye Populations" and a few other select fish species and read a few of the scientific papers that pop up. IMO, it's a much better source of information on this issue for those interested in what the research data has to say on how ZM's affect selected fish populations. I recommend reading only those from peer reviewed journals as they are much less likely to be politically driven or subscribe to the fringe groups that promote the polar opposites of either "the sky is falling" or "it's no big deal" point of views. There has been some solid research done in Ontario, the great lakes, and the labs of several universities IMO. Happy Reading!!

 

[pluckem]

Here is something that will add to the fire.

Captioned read:
Photo courtesy of Mark and Amy Hinzmann: Look close at this nymph that came out of Sand Lake and crawled up the wall of the Hinzmann's cabin where it will emerge, I think as a dragonfly. Look even closer and you'll see that riding on the nymph back are some zebra Mussels; now what?

 

[svnmag]

That is astounding but can ZM go dormant in sun and dry land?

- - - Updated - - -

Also, I do see this threat from feathers. If that was your point then I apologize for the second time today.

In my armchair opinion; predators should be in place FIRST.

 

[Enslow]

So last weekend in devils lake i was heading to my friends place in the frezon addition early saturday morning during the rain. When i drove past the cleaning station at eds i saw a wisconsin rig emptying their bilge and livewell while unloading fish. I called the warden and they were cited with a ticket. It sounds like lots of tickets are being issued now. I also received a call from the fisheries chief in bismarck and they are interested in hearing what the public would like to suggest for additional precautions for ANS . He said to send an email and then we could arrange a meeting to discuss the situation. I would like to ask people in the NDA community to share questions and ideas so that i can incorporte them into the email and discussion. Please post any ideas or questions regarding ANS on this thread and i will make sure to include them in my communications with the NDGF.