Noise Ordinance for Boats

[drayweb]

I wonder where this is? Kind of looked like Hazelton on the news.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news...se-from-boats-other-watercraft-505164441.html

 

[Rowdie]

So the ND legislators have a bill because of ONE PERSON!? Typical

 

[Allen]

Yeah, I would guess it is Hazelton. There was a carp shooting guy that put in there a number of times (may still do it) that used an airboat. The fella who put his house right there north of the boat ramp complained about the noise and tried to get changes to the open times for the Hazelton ramp.

I'm kinda summarizing a thread that was either here or over on that other website, but it caught my attention because the times proposed would have affected me.

 

[3geese4me]

Yeah, I would guess it is Hazelton. There was a carp shooting guy that put in there a number of times (may still do it) that used an airboat. The fella who put his house right there north of the boat ramp complained about the noise and tried to get changes to the open times for the Hazelton ramp.

I'm kinda summarizing a thread that was either here or over on that other website, but it caught my attention because the times proposed would have affected me.

It was here. I remember reading about it.

 

[shorthairsrus]

Pro xs

 

[drayweb]

Kinda reminds me of this movie.

https://youtu.be/beXPpObKWFo

 

[drayweb]

One of the pitfalls of living on the river, like the flood of 2011.

 

[Riverbottoms]

Just another douchbag trying to own the river!

 

[JayKay]

Kinda reminds me of this movie.

https://youtu.be/beXPpObKWFo

That was an awesome movie. Loved the flip-out chainsaw arm...

 

[Lycanthrope]

Sounds like BS to me, are there typically noise restrictions in rural areas? Farm equipment isnt always super quiet....

This could be a serious one guys, I just read the language of the bill and it would eliminate the use of a most 2 stroke motors at night in ND. According to the bill


Senator Erbele
Representative Brandenburg
A BILL for an Act to create and enact a new section to chapter 20.1-13 of the North Dakota Century Code, relating to restrictions on noises resulting from the operation of boats and otherwatercraft; and to provide a penalty.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF NORTH DAKOTA:
SECTION 1.
A new section to chapter 20.1-13 of the North Dakota Century Code is created

and enacted as follows:Watercraft noise restrictions.

1.An individual may not operate a boat or other watercraft if the operation of the boat or

watercraft results in a loud, unnecessary, or unusual noise; or a noise that annoys,
disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, or safety of a
reasonable person hearing the noise. Except as set forth in subsection
2, the following factors must be considered when determining whether a reasonable person hearing a noise resulting from the operation of a boat or other watercraft would find the noise violates this section:

a.The volume of the noise;

b.The intensity of the noise;

c.Whether the noise is unusual;

d.Whether the origin of the noise is natural or unnatural;

e.The volume and intensity of any background noise;

f.The proximity of the noise to residential sleeping facilities;

g.The nature and zoning of the area from which the noise emanates;

h.The population density of the area from which the noise emanates;

i.The time of day or night;

j.The duration of the noise; and

k.Whether the noise is recurrent, intermittent, or constant.2.An individual who creates a noise exceeding eighty-eight decibels by operating a boator watercraft between the hours of ten p.m. and seven a.m. is in violation of section

1.The noise must be measured at a distance of twenty-five feet [7.62 meters] from the

source of the noise.
5.An individual who violates this section is guilty of a class

2 noncriminal offense.


Examples of noise that my violate this 88db restriction listed below...

Boeing 737 or DC-9 aircraft at one nautical mile (6080 ft) before landing (97 dB); power mower (96 dB); motorcycle at 25 ft (90 dB). Newspaper press (97 dB).	90	4 times as loud as 70 dB. Likely damage in 8 hour exposure.
Garbage disposal, dishwasher, average factory, freight train (at 15 meters). Car wash at 20 ft (89 dB); propeller plane flyover at 1000 ft (88 dB); diesel truck 40 mph at 50 ft (84 dB); diesel train at 45 mph at 100 ft (83 dB). Food blender (88 dB); milling machine (85 dB); garbage disposal (80 dB).	80	2 times as loud as 70 dB. Possible damage in 8 hour exposure.

 

[dbllung]

So the ND legislators have a bill because of ONE PERSON!? Typical

Pathetic, isn't it?

 

[shorthairman]

I'm sorry, but this is almost laughable...one person has a problem with one person and they are talking about passing a law...How many of you guys launch or have launched before 7 AM? I do it as often as I can...I'd be pissed as a fisherman if this were passed and it effected when I could or could not launch.
However, airboats are ridiculously loud and while you can get to/through shallow water with them...they certainly are not using that motor while shooting carp or hunting ducks, and thus they could get by with something else I would think...just my opinion...

 

[Allen]

I imagine they use the big motor to get up in the shallows and they pole around from there until they get ready to leave. There's an awful lot of shallow water within a mile or two of that boat ramp. You wouldn't want to run a prop up in those shallows as it's full of wood.

 

[SDMF]

I imagine they use the big motor to get up in the shallows and they pole around from there until they get ready to leave. There's an awful lot of shallow water within a mile or two of that boat ramp. You wouldn't want to run a prop up in those shallows as it's full of wood.

If it's a fan boat, they're LOUD. Even if it's not a fan boat, there's likely lots of generator noise keeping flood lights lit up.

So you've got the 2 extremes. 1. The guy with the loudest rig on the river using said rig right near, 2. The guy who wants the peace and quiet of country life but chose to build right where he's pretty much guaranteed not to have it.

I'm on the side of the boaters in this case.

To me, building your house by a boat ramp and then demanding quiet is no different than building your house near a shooting range, race track, or airport and then complaining about noise.

 

[shorthairman]

Just to be clear, I am in agreement with the boat owners. You don't build a house by a boat launch and expect not to hear boat traffic whether it be inboard, outboard, jet ski, airboat, whatever. I guess what I was trying to say was that maybe they could be a little more conscientious about how they use their airboat...and then again, I am not familiar with the area, so maybe they can't.

 

[guywhofishes]

yep - they really are in the insanely loud category

https://southernairboat.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=46166#p449486

 

[jdinny]

this was on kfyr last night. Durant scheirmister or similar to that.

 

[dean nelson]

Yeah the fan boats are are loud but that guy bitches about everybody he's he's an equal-opportunity douchebag! That ramp was there long before he was and he best be a little careful for it's best not to piss off a whole bunch of people when they all know where you live! There's always a crazy one in every bunch you can bet he's pissing somebody off more than he should!

 

[Lycanthrope]

Here is a list of all ND legislators and their contact information. Id suggest emailing them if you have an opinion on this bill passing. This is clearly a law being written by one person to negatively impact another, but it could have more widespread consequences to all sportsmen if it passes. All that is required is a noise that "annoys" another individual between the hours of 10pm and 7am, created by a watercraft and is moderately loud (less than a motorcycle), for that person to be fined.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...U_4Ct5IcfSfm7IXG_tFACqlCRBIjOYvEOJ473bxaUfG0#

 

[Ugly Dogs]

There is a plan by the city of Bismarck to start a new development along the river. Don't be surprised if there isn't a push for speed limits and noise limits in the future in the city limits of Bismarck/Mandan and not just at night but also during the day. Imagine making Bismarck a no wake zone. It's really not that far fetched. If they are going to spend millions of dollars developing it, I can see someone trying to regulate the activity on the water. Just a thought.