Property Tax Petition

[Rowdie]

The most over asked question by LE...."so do you know why i pulled you over?"

Never Never answer any questions.

 

[Jiffy]

The most over asked question by LE...."so do you know why i pulled you over?"

Because you’re a jackbooted thug?

 

[Obi-Wan]

The most over asked question by LE...."so do you know why i pulled you over?"

Hellcat driver “ because I let you “

 

[Fester]

There's a ton of YouTube videos where people just refuse any questions and keep asking if they are detained. If they detain you with no crime, they're setting themselves up for a lawsuit.

Wonder how long they can hold you there. Couldn't they just say I smell alcohol..even though there was non?

 

[Rowdie]

They can falsify all kinds of shit, and even lie. I believe there's a time limit that they can detain you without an arrest. Departments are getting sued more and more now that everyone is filming their illegal activities. Too bad taxpayers have to foot the bill. Police unions should have to pay for their tyrants bad training.

 

[johnr]

It will solve itself, as we all vote to remove the illegitimate property tax, the boogie man will take our police force, and schools away. No more cash, no more cops, and dumber kids.

Vote no on 4 or the boggiedy man will surely get us all.... The beatings will continue until moral improves..

 

[Obi-Wan]

They can falsify all kinds of shit, and even lie. I believe there's a time limit that they can detain you without an arrest. Departments are getting sued more and more now that everyone is filming their illegal activities. Too bad taxpayers have to foot the bill. Police unions should have to pay for their tyrants bad training.

Take any lawsuit payouts out of their pensions. why does the public have to pay for their actions of violating someone's constitutional or civil rights or even criminal acts committed against the public ? until the financial pain is felt by those actually committing the violations or actual crimes it won't stop.

 

[Fester]

Take any lawsuit payouts out of their pensions. why does the public have to pay for their actions of violating someone's constitutional or civil rights or even criminal acts committed against the public ? until the financial pain is felt by those actually committing the violations or actual crimes it won't stop.

That's what i do t think I get..so what if it 100% wro g do the police or prosecutors have any liability for false charges/arrest? I don't know anything about the legal system.

 

[Rowdie]

There are tons of YouTube videos and people even have channels dedicated to auditing the police and other public officials by videoing them and flexing their constitutional rights. It's sad how many LEO's and other public employees don't know our constitutional rights. Many of them swore to uphold it but don't even know it.

 

[gonefshn]

Voting no on 4. Long term cost is too high. First of all we lose a huge amount from out of staters and will have to pay for their property with our money. I also don’t see how the legislature would ever be able to fund every single entity in their current 80 days. Next up full time legislature. Add to that every ambulance service, fire dept, township, and so on now having to run to Bismarck (at our expense) to lobby for money. This bill is not going to save ND taxpayers money. It’s going to cost us way more. We need to change it but this isn’t the way.

 

[eyexer]

Don’t fall for the propaganda. Nothing changes except who writes the check. All the emergency services will still be funded as they have been.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Voting no on 4. Long term cost is too high. First of all we lose a huge amount from out of staters and will have to pay for their property with our money. I also don’t see how the legislature would ever be able to fund every single entity in their current 80 days. Next up full time legislature. Add to that every ambulance service, fire dept, township, and so on now having to run to Bismarck (at our expense) to lobby for money. This bill is not going to save ND taxpayers money. It’s going to cost us way more. We need to change it but this isn’t the way.

The legislators have refused to address this flawed system, with a yes vote they will have to. voting no will give them the feeling that the public is ok with the current system.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Don’t fall for the propaganda. Nothing changes except who writes the check. All the emergency services will still be funded as they have been.

1.8 million dollars of false advertising says differently.

One needs to ask what is in it for those that donated the 1.8 million.

 

[johnr]

Don’t fall for the propaganda. Nothing changes except who writes the check. All the emergency services will still be funded as they have been.

Agreed.

Funny how easy people are taken into the world will end if they stop raping us, please vote to keep the raping going...blah blah rapiedy blah

 

[Fester]

1.8 million dollars of false advertising says differently.

One needs to ask what is in it for those that donated the 1.8 million.

They should have donated the $1.8 million to property tax relief.

 

[Ruttin]

Anytime we can eliminate a tax we better do it. I still can't beleive people are ok with the county taking your home away for lack of payment for taxes. Vote yes on 4!!

 

[1850reata]

Taxation is theft. Yes on 4. Funny how everyone freaks when kamaltoe says we need to tax unrealized gains but with this one the fear porn gets to ppl.

 

[Rowdie]

60 years ago, kids used pencils and paper supplied by the parents. Nowadays, they use laptops and electronic notebooks supplied by the school, who also have to maintain their own computer systems to integrate the kids' lesson plans into their electronics. I've taught at the college level and would never consider teaching elementary to high school, but IMHO the students who try nowadays are certainly better educated than those of 60 years ago. I remember taking a business accounting class in high school in the 80s where the teacher claimed the material he was teaching he learned at the collegiate level. Same can be said for many courses high school students take today.

We can say the level of smarts were better in the past if it makes us feel better, but kids today far surpass our technological abilities at the same age.

I mean, I get it...we all see grandiose examples of spending in new schools, but I don't think too many people would think our kids would be better off with one-room schools as the norm today.

BTW, I fully agree with the first two paragraphs. Private school kids are largely given better resources and familial support than the average, or certainly the lower end of the spectrum, kids at public schools.

 

[Fester]

I would be F*cked

 

[Trip McNeely]

Thats exactly what I’m saying. We waste a lot of money and peoples time teaching our kids useless bullshit. Gender fluid studies and calculus 7. It’s all bullshit. It wastes their time by not preparing them for the real world and it wastes our time in increased costs and taxes. We’re paying more and getting less like everything else in this goddamn world. Let’s get back to teaching kids what they really need to know to thrive in society and those who are more gifted and talented can continue with advanced classes. This “no child left behind” bullshit is leaving all our kids behind when it comes to being ready for adult society.