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[Davy Crockett]

We have waited long enough for the "right" solution, just eliminate it at this point, its all just a shell game to grab more money from you.
I just heard on the radio that the month of May ND took in an additional 29 million in oil revenue because of the price of oil going up.
That's just neat, pack that away in the legacy fund and jack up our property taxes to pay for everyone's free lunch, and all the other socialist communist funds we now give to the "needy". We working tax payers just have to pay our "fair" share.

And the legistlature will never cut spending or funding, when was the last time that actually happened?
Forcing their hand would hopefully make them cut spending, and the free lunch program and busing should be the first out the door.

I agree, I don't like taxes either. My point is somebody needs to get involved and write a bill with a Straight foreward prognosis that the majority will embrace. Legislature doesn't have a good track record of helping reduce taxes , and the majority of them do what THEY want ,what makes you think that has changed ? They need to be forced to comply with a well thought out plan. It's as simple as that, and the ONLY reason that poorly written bill failed.

Iv'e never signed a document in my life that I am bound to by law and have no idea what it contains. I don't feel a bit bad about that.

 

[Sluggo]

Here's a thought: Each county, instead of sending the current property tax bill to us citizens, send the tax bill to the state. For example, Burleigh County would send a bill to the state for 1.7 billion dollars this year. Last year it would have been 1.6 billion. Maybe someone at the state level could get Burleigh County to justify why they need $100 million more each year. Gotta get the spending under control.

 

[Colt45]

I agree, I don't like taxes either. My point is somebody needs to get involved and write a bill with a Straight foreward prognosis that the majority will embrace. Legislature doesn't have a good track record of helping reduce taxes , and the majority of them do what THEY want ,what makes you think that has changed ? They need to be forced to comply with a well thought out plan. It's as simple as that, and the ONLY reason that poorly written bill failed.

Iv'e never signed a document in my life that I am bound to by law and have no idea what it contains. I don't feel a bit bad about that.

So who is going to write this bill you speak of that we will all embrace?
The legislature?
The legislature is the problem, not the solution, they have had plenty of opportunity to get it done and get it done right, and it just doesn't happen. And now we need to fund free lunches for everyone to the tune of 160 million, which is probably low.
We the people need to say enough is enough and eliminate property taxes on our own, and then the dummy socialists that supposedly represent us can maybe start making choices of what to cut and eliminating waste.

 

[Davy Crockett]

So who is going to write this bill you speak of that we will all embrace?
The legislature?
The legislature is the problem, not the solution, they have had plenty of opportunity to get it done and get it done right, and it just doesn't happen. And now we need to fund free lunches for everyone to the tune of 160 million, which is probably low.
We the people need to say enough is enough and eliminate property taxes on our own, and then the dummy socialists that supposedly represent us can maybe start making choices of what to cut and eliminating waste.

No hell NO , and the rest of your response is exactly what I've been saying.

 

[Colt45]

No hell NO , and the rest of your response is exactly what I've been saying.

We have had 2 chances to eliminate property taxes, both times without a clear plan on how to replace them, and voted to keep them. I was on board the first go with waiting for a good plan, which never transpired, and second time I voted to eliminate property taxes.
My point is we need to eliminate them with or without a plan, which hopefully leads to spending cuts and fraud/waste cleanup.

 

[Davy Crockett]

We have had 2 chances to eliminate property taxes, both times without a clear plan on how to replace them, and voted to keep them. I was on board the first go with waiting for a good plan, which never transpired, and second time I voted to eliminate property taxes.
My point is we need to eliminate them with or without a plan, which hopefully leads to spending cuts and fraud/waste cleanup.

Good luck with that. I don't think the majority is willing to take a chance based on hope alone.

 

[johnr]

Good luck with that. I don't think the majority is willing to take a chance based on hope alone.

What will happen if we dont fuck the property owners?
Is it the bogie man again?
A century ago, guess what, no property taxes, and our grandfathers somehow built this entire country.

 

[Davy Crockett]

We get your point. What has to happen is citizens to take action and write an initiated measure and find someone who will sponsor it. Whining about it online isn't gonna make it happen.

 

[tikkalover]

But but we will loose most of the fire departments and police force if they eliminate property taxes

Drive buy the Minot police department any time of the day and count the patrol cars in the lot, must have gotten a buy one get one free deal.

 

[Colt45]

We get your point. What has to happen is citizens to take action and write an initiated measure and find someone who will sponsor it. Whining about it online isn't gonna make it happen.

Pretty sure Jim Kasper sponsored the last attempt to eliminate property taxes with Rick Berg leading the charge. So sounds like your idea for citizens to take action and have someone sponsor it has already been attempted at least once, not sure on the first attempt.

And I am not whining about it, this is just a discussion, you sound like comrade camper when you go to that level