UND Hockey Disappointment

[roosterfish]

Guarantee Blaiser is shaking his head rolling his eyes!!!

 

[shorthairsrus]

So if it's all about respecting the flag and anthem I suppose you all stand with your hat off and hand over your heart every time it's played? Oh and shouldn't you have been upset when the fans all yell Sioux at the end? Why no uproar about that from all you UND hockey supporters?:;:stirthepot

same with the bison at the end, people roaming the stairs etc. To be real honest - i dont think the national anthem should be played before sports games. Believe it or not before the WW they didnt play it before sports games. It was a politics that brought it to the games.

 

[Rowdie]

Not playing the anthem IS THE GOAL of the left. I said this waaaay back when Kap started kneeling.

 

[shorthairsrus]

I am more in favor of the pledge back in schools. Are any schools doing that more. Not only that those kids that are spreading the covid (all kids) would be in military school --- it i was presidentae --- i would have those kids marching like Kim Sung has em doing over in rea. I would have big parades showing all the firepower we have. Thats where the anthem would be played. You would have every freedom except if you steal you would have your hands cut off, murder you would swing quickly and the list goes on.

Right or Left they wouldnt go for my world.


Pussies

 

[espringers]

true story:

i am presenting on a case to a civics class at the local high school before the supreme court came to town to hold hearings in our old courthouse downtown. i decide it would be a bit cooler and a little less work to ask a colleague and co-worker of mine who i obviously didn't know too well to study and present one side and i would present the other. so, i asked if he would tag along and he gladly agreed. we arrived about 5 minutes late that morning. so, class had already started. things went well. for the afternoon class, we arrived early. much to my surprise and delight, the entire class rose to their feet as one student led them all in the pledge of allegiance. of course i rose too, put my hand at my heart and recited the words i probably hadn't said since grade school. the fella i brought along just sat on his ass. i kind of nudged him. he looks up at me and sort of shakes his head, "no". we were sort of in the corner of the room with the students facing the flag at the other end. so, i think very few if any of them noticed. but, afterwards, as we were walking down the hall, i says to him, "what the fuck was that?". he says ever so nonchalantly, "that ain't my thing. i don't stand for the national anthem either." you could have cut the tension and the silence with a knife. flabbergasted i was! so, i tell the story to a few other friends, do some digging, asking questions, etc... turns out he was/is literally a card carrying socialist... at least that is what i was told. anyway, if you are reading this and i was misinformed about your socialist affiliations, i apologize. but, for fucks sake man! stand for the national anthem and say the pledge of allegiance with the class when you are invited into their world!

 

[Allen]

So if it's all about respecting the flag and anthem I suppose you all stand with your hat off and hand over your heart every time it's played? Oh and shouldn't you have been upset when the fans all yell Sioux at the end? Why no uproar about that from all you UND hockey supporters?:;:stirthepot

Light hearted abuse of the National Anthem is one thing, openly disputing that this is the finest country on the planet when it comes to women's and minorities rights is fairly ludicrous if you've ever spent considerable amounts of time outside of our borders.

Yeah sure, one can say there are other country's (Canada, Australia, England, etc) that are on par with our human and minority rights, but the other 190 countries on this planet are decades, if not a century, behind the U.S. when it comes to equal rights.

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Of course, that's just my take on it, but what do I know. I've only been to around a dozen other countries.

 

[db-2]

NDsposrtsman:

Yes i do stand for the anthem with head gear off as i was taught. Do not ever remember not standing. I fought in a war that had little meaning except to line some pockets out east and i killed the innocent in that fricking conflict that we should of never been in but i still respect this flag and what it stands for. It is dear to me and for the thousand who have gave their all for it. Some seem to not understand that people die for that flag because they believe in that flag.

The Sioux name is another story. UND hockey, fine but i do not watch. However that name was approved by the Sioux nation many years ago and it would be hard for me to believe that when UND requested them of that name it was to show disrespect to the Sioux nation or that the natives felt it showed disrespect but as an honor.

Hollering the land of the Sioux is also meant in a respectful way or they would not say it, but then i am a white honkie and maybe just do not understand.

This all started when some white boys and girls wanted to be the good ones and correct something they thought was wrong and it would make them feel good with little understanding of life and showing respect.

You don't want to stand, then you can kiss your liberal friends ass while your on your knees.

Yes there has been abuse of human rights since man came to be and it will continue. Yes it needs to be corrected and most understand this. We have came a long ways but do not use ways to divide us to solve the problem. db

 

[NDSportsman]

Don't get me wrong, I have always stood for the flag and anthem and have the utmost respect for those who have served our country. I also realize those who served did so for all of us to have the same rights and freedoms even if we do not agree with their choices or methods. That's what makes America the greatest nation in the world but that doesn't mean it can't be a better place either. I don't agree with these people who protest during the anthem either but I understand it's their right and freedom to do so and I wouldn't want them to lose those or any of our other rights and freedoms because I disagree with them on the issue. When we start taking away rights and freedoms it's a slippery slope, one our founding fathers were better aware of then some people today.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

Don't get me wrong, I have always stood for the flag and anthem and have the utmost respect for those who have served our country. I also realize those who served did so for all of us to have the same rights and freedoms even if we do not agree with their choices or methods. That's what makes America the greatest nation in the world but that doesn't mean it can't be a better place either. I don't agree with these people who protest during the anthem either but I understand it's their right and freedom to do so and I wouldn't want them to lose those or any of our other rights and freedoms because I disagree with them on the issue. When we start taking away rights and freedoms it's a slippery slope, one our founding fathers were better aware of then some people today.

Would the same people sitting/kneeling during the national anthem in protest stand up against attacks on the second amendment or any other amendment for that matter? I know what I think.

 

[db-2]

There's a right time , a right place and a right way to protest if one wants to be heard and gain support. To me protesting during the anthem is no different than protesting by looting. Db-2

 

[Kurtr]

I am more in favor of the pledge back in schools. Are any schools doing that more. Not only that those kids that are spreading the covid (all kids) would be in military school --- it i was presidentae --- i would have those kids marching like Kim Sung has em doing over in rea. I would have big parades showing all the firepower we have. Thats where the anthem would be played. You would have every freedom except if you steal you would have your hands cut off, murder you would swing quickly and the list goes on.

Right or Left they wouldnt go for my world.


Pussies

They say it every morning to start school here. What branch of the service were you in?

 

[guywhofishes]

Don't get me wrong, I have always stood for the flag and anthem and have the utmost respect for those who have served our country. I also realize those who served did so for all of us to have the same rights and freedoms even if we do not agree with their choices or methods. That's what makes America the greatest nation in the world but that doesn't mean it can't be a better place either. I don't agree with these people who protest during the anthem either but I understand it's their right and freedom to do so and I wouldn't want them to lose those or any of our other rights and freedoms because I disagree with them on the issue. When we start taking away rights and freedoms it's a slippery slope, one our founding fathers were better aware of then some people today.

I guess the Devil put a price on everything. Even freedom has its Achilles heel.... and it's freedom.

Freedom without a code of ethics or laws or rules of civil behavior is not freedom. It's anarchy. And it's awful.

 

[johnr]

Don't get me wrong, I have always stood for the flag and anthem and have the utmost respect for those who have served our country. I also realize those who served did so for all of us to have the same rights and freedoms even if we do not agree with their choices or methods. That's what makes America the greatest nation in the world but that doesn't mean it can't be a better place either. I don't agree with these people who protest during the anthem either but I understand it's their right and freedom to do so and I wouldn't want them to lose those or any of our other rights and freedoms because I disagree with them on the issue. When we start taking away rights and freedoms it's a slippery slope, one our founding fathers were better aware of then some people today.

Agreed, I would not want their right to act the way they do to be taken. I just feel the media, NFL, NHL, NBA, etc seem to call it something it is not, and almost glamorize it.
Racial injustice has nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing to do with any of these sports, or our flag. If these guys kneeling used their stage, and the huge amounts of income to actually do something, well that might work. Not sure anyone is worth millions of dollars for the skill of being a good athlete. Colin Kapperneck has lived the absolute most privileged life of any American, and that flag represents the very dream he is protesting.

Fuck these pompous sonsabitches, and the privilege they rode in on..

 

[guywhofishes]

Don't get me wrong, I have always stood for the flag and anthem and have the utmost respect for those who have served our country. I also realize those who served did so for all of us to have the same rights and freedoms even if we do not agree with their choices or methods. That's what makes America the greatest nation in the world but that doesn't mean it can't be a better place either. I don't agree with these people who protest during the anthem either but I understand it's their right and freedom to do so and I wouldn't want them to lose those or any of our other rights and freedoms because I disagree with them on the issue. When we start taking away rights and freedoms it's a slippery slope, one our founding fathers were better aware of then some people today.

in my opinion, if you support this crap you're horribly misguided



call it freedom if you want I guess - but this "freedom of expression" has since caused the deaths of many people who mop up society's worst ills (law enforcement)

 

[NDSportsman]

Would the same people sitting/kneeling during the national anthem in protest stand up against attacks on the second amendment or any other amendment for that matter? I know what I think.

Probably not but that's not really the point.

There's a right time , a right place and a right way to protest if one wants to be heard and gain support. To me protesting during the anthem is no different than protesting by looting. Db-2

Who decides when the right time/place is? Is there currently a law saying you must stand for the anthem? I don't think anyone considers looting protesting except the looters and they should be held accountable for their actions since they are breaking the law.

I guess the Devil put a price on everything. Even freedom has its Achilles heel.... and it's freedom.

Freedom without a code of ethics or laws or rules of civil behavior is not freedom. It's anarchy. And it's awful.

Won't argue with you but again where's the law stating someone must stand for the anthem? Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean someone shouldn't have the right. Kind of like gun rights no?

 

[guywhofishes]

There's also no law preventing me from cornering a small child or an elderly person walking down the street and saying horrible (but not unlawful) things to them.

But I'm hoping to hell you'd kick my ass if witnessed me doing it.

And I'd say "Hey - there's no law against it - what's your deal???" and I bet you'd tell me what your deal is.

 

[NDSportsman]

Agreed, I would not want their right to act the way they do to be taken. I just feel the media, NFL, NHL, NBA, etc seem to call it something it is not, and almost glamorize it.
Racial injustice has nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing to do with any of these sports, or our flag. If these guys kneeling used their stage, and the huge amounts of income to actually do something, well that might work. Not sure anyone is worth millions of dollars for the skill of being a good athlete. Colin Kapperneck has lived the absolute most privileged life of any American, and that flag represents the very dream he is protesting.

Fuck these pompous sonsabitches, and the privilege they rode in on..

Like short, IMO sports shouldn't have anything to do with the flag or anthem either unless it's the olympics. Do they play the anthem before a tiddly winks game too?

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There's also no law preventing me from cornering a small child or an elderly person walking down the street and saying horrible (but not unlawful) things to them.

But I'm hoping to hell you'd kick my ass if witnessed me doing it.

And I'd say "Hey - there's no law against it - what's your deal???" and I bet you'd tell me what your deal is.

Try that and see what happens. That's harassment and it is against the law.

 

[Twitch]

Like short, IMO sports shouldn't have anything to do with the flag or anthem either unless it's the olympics. Do they play the anthem before a tiddly winks game too?

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There was kneeling by sports figures representing their country too. You ok with that behavior or are we going down a slippery slope here?

 

[SDMF]

Who decides when the right time/place is? Is there currently a law saying you must stand for the anthem? I don't think anyone considers looting protesting except the looters and they should be held accountable for their actions since they are breaking the law.

Won't argue with you but again where's the law stating someone must stand for the anthem? Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean someone shouldn't have the right. Kind of like gun rights no?

It's stupidity like this that paves the way for a woman to spill coffee from McDonalds into her lap of her own accord and then win a 1 Million dollar lawsuit.

There are things you should do and things you shouldn't do. There doesn't need to be a law for absolutely every single one of them.

There isn't anyone discussing the reason behind the kneeling, meaning that the kneeling didn't serve any useful purpose and more likely was exceptionally counterproductive.

There are folks who looked past the name change because it was the entire school and NCAA driven. This kneeling falls squarely upon the hockey program. There will be financial penalties to the UND Hockey program that last decades over this.

 

[ndlongshot]

I graduated from UND. Was a die hard Sioux fan.

Its just the continued chipping away of pride. I could care less about any university in this state at this point for a number of reasons.

1.) Higher Ed needs a serious up ending in todays world. Its all a scam.
2.) Sports are JUST sports. Who cares?
3.) The larger political correctness argument surrounding logos, and the Sioux, really bummed me out. Again, not a big deal but I will show support or lack of with my dollars. I wont piss and moan. Its water under the bridge and just one of a number of BS liberal ideologies in the world. Some effect me much more than a logo. But its disappointing none the less.
4.) Mismanagement of dollars and priorities. Focus not on graduation rates and education quality.

Just a few reasons I could care less about these places and will not support them. They regrettably have gotten enough of my money and I feel they have squandered it and just keep asking for more, from everyone. The state, the fed, the students. All for no increase in quality product.

Its a microcosm of the federal government.

In other news, for sale: Lots of gently used Sioux memorabilia. I'd like to buy a few new guns for the collection.