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Pretty funny how the roads are blocked by the protesters from the vehicles they drove there, what a group of hypocrites they are. We as a society away from the reservation need to give them absolutely no support and convince all out friends and family to do the same. No Casino, no paying hunting fees, give nothing to the tribe out of your pocket. Make sure your vehicle is full before heading south or north thru res. and don't stop for anything down there. As I stated earlier I would like to blockade them in, no gas propane or electricity. Let them live in the way they preach and see how long that lasts. They would never make it like there true ancestors did. This is my feeling, will never give any support to them again pretty easy since I gave very little to begin with. dukgnfsn
the other thing that bothers me is seeing the United States Flag flown in a upside down position. The situation the are in doesn't warrant flying the flag in this position.
 
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Yeah they want it in by the end of the year. I hope the casino is making good money because the tribe is going to be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars because of a lawsuit.

when will the three affiliated tribes step in and condone these disruptions? It is costing them big bucks to ship on rail rather than on this pipeline.
 

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My wife (who works there) said there are people gambling, and she sees no sign of decline. Those addicted will find their way down HWY 6. Plus their convince store is bringing in record sales.
 


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One could also take the pontoon from Beaver Bay campground. Or isn't that running this year?

I find this whole thing fascinating on many levels.
 

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There actually is a little more to this. Dapl in the required impact study didn't even pretend to have met the states requirement as far as the cultural impact study is concerned. (Possible reason for the grave sites talk) This isn't just a native thing, it's what keeps them from digging up any graveyards anywhere as well as other important historical sites. It's required to get approval and must be brought through the state historical society. For some reason, take your pick, DAPL was the one contractor to get a free pass on this one. It reeks of shady pool. Since someone mentioned treaties though it's funny that the US military goes to war when treaties are broken overseas and people cheer it on yet the same folks are pissed when we even think of upholding the ones that are left here. I thought and still kinda do think this protest has a dumb as hell aspect to it but looks like some folks at the state level are getting nervous about getting caught. I hope no one who is bitching about this protest ever complains when companies spill in creeks that run to the lake, meanwhile say nothing when the state lets them out of their fines because it looks like free passes to companies is exactly what's going on here. God forbid the state makes these companies follow the law once in awhile. If DAPL started without meeting the law they need to get the boot and a stand-up outfit can get the job for a change.
 
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There actually is a little more to this. Dapl in the required impact study didn't even pretend to have met the states requirement as far as the cultural impact study is concerned. (Possible reason for the grave sites talk) This isn't just a native thing, it's what keeps them from digging up any graveyards anywhere as well as other important historical sites. It's required to get approval and must be brought through the state historical society. For some reason, take your pick, DAPL was the one contractor to get a free pass on this one. It reeks of shady pool. Since someone mentioned treaties though it's funny that the US military goes to war when treaties are broken overseas and people cheer it on yet the same folks are pissed when we even think of upholding the ones that are left here. I thought and still kinda do think this protest has a dumb as hell aspect to it but looks like some folks at the state level are getting nervous about getting caught. I hope no one who is bitching about this protest ever complains when companies spill in creeks that run to the lake, meanwhile say nothing when the state lets them out of their fines because it looks like free passes to companies is exactly what's going on here. God forbid the state makes these companies follow the law once in awhile. If DAPL started without meeting the law they need to get the boot and a stand-up outfit can get the job for a change.

So who did not get the permits Michaels who is the company puting in the pipe or the owners of the pipe line. With the inspection involved I find it hard that they got to start with out all of it done. I do all the certification for our jobs and we can't pour a side walk with out every thing in place. Point me in the direction of the states requirements concerning the cultural impacts I would like to see it. They have been working in Sodak for months i know the guys doing the inspection the pipe liners so much as fart the wrong way the pipe is coming out and being redone.
 

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From the news I get on the east side. It is being very well advertised how to get to casino and bis man people don't miss a day at the casino

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Just shoot the pipe under the mo and go down on the east side and get it over. How many time does the old keystone go under the rivers in the east
 


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I wonder if we will see photo's of the mess they leave when this is over? The trash accumulated will take a long time to clean up. Boycott all Indian Casinos
 

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I'm in agreement with Kurt. The Corp of Engineers granted the access across the river. Are you, Brian, saying that Obama's administration allowed an access grant to a natural resource supply line that didn't meet the federal checklists for doing so? Are you flippin' crazy? All these steps had to be done BEFORE the State of ND conducted their public meetings, hearings, and invited public comment. Only then, did the PSC grant approval for the pipeline..... and I stress "AFTER"
 

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Through 4 cases of Budweiser, and a case of Windsor on the end gate of a pickup and drive past them. I bet they forget what they are protesting for, and follow the pickup. ;:;boozer
 

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Protesting is fine, but it's not okay to mess with traffic, or legal pipeline installation, or to hassle the police, all the while living off of tax payers.
Zero pride in themselves.
A prideful people do not act and live this way.

Thanks obama
 

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I've always hated these f*ckers, but now this gives me an even better reason. Now they are sitting here whining to our Senators about the lack of services and healthcare on the Res, but they continue to threaten us and commit violent acts during the protests when we try to protect them. Someone needs to do us all a favor and just start running them over. It's only a matter of time until they piss off the wrong group of crazy racists.

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...cle_9b290c6b-2fcb-53a5-8a5c-cd53f985b608.html


Thank you for the negative rep ;)
 
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It is their right to protest, but they do need to do it peacefully and lawfully. There are a lot of good points on here and examples of how the protestors are so very hypocritical in their actions. A lot of this has to do with some of the people that are coming in form out of state only to "stir the pot". Then to hear that protestors and taking photos of law enforcement personnel and their name badges and posting them on the internet......really. That is supporting your cause???????

I view the media as not providing clear details on this. They twist it or do not report or communicate all of the facts. They should be stressing that this protest is NOT on reservation land. I would like a reporter to ask the SRST Council Members, where were you during the planning of all of this? Why were you not at the PSC meetings? Did you even pick up a phone to call and ask to be part of the planning? I am finding that the news media is portraying this and are creating more empathy for the protestors. What makes the news these days seems to be reporting on disasters or negative incident. I would guess this to be 80%-90% of the newscast besides the weather and sports. Anyways, I usually make several trips to Prairie Knights a year, but I guess it is time to rethink supporting Standing Rock by staying at their casino and going to concerts there. So I do agree with an earlier comment to Boycott the casino. Not my favorite casino anyways......get more options down in Deadwood. Time to go :fishing...:
 

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It's in the environmental impact study for the project. Not a exciting read by the way, it's online. It references the requirements of the cultural impact study and that it needs to be filed with the State Historical Soceity. There are requirements for that study as well including the need to reference knowledgeable local parties before submitting to the NDPSC for approval. Not talking about the study for the entire length of the pipeline, I imagine I wouldn't have the time in a week for that. Anyway the the cultural impact study is referenced as a requirement but not mentioned after that. Pretty obvious it wasn't done. What is annoying to me is I'd be surprised if there is a protestor out there who has read the thing or even cares. The ones who aren't paid from outside groups are more than likely doing what the elders tell them from their chairs(voting is done the same way) and have no clue about laws that weren't followed. Therefore we have a standoff over "what if it leaks and kills us all?" when all of this should have been discussed long ago. Construction time is hardly time to decide to pay attention.
 

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Through 4 cases of Budweiser, and a case of Windsor on the end gate of a pickup and drive past them. I bet they forget what they are protesting for, and follow the pickup. ;:;boozer

You best read the proclamation first! Remember thats the part of the state that baiting is not allowed!
 

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It's in the environmental impact study for the project. Not a exciting read by the way, it's online. It references the requirements of the cultural impact study and that it needs to be filed with the State Historical Soceity. There are requirements for that study as well including the need to reference knowledgeable local parties before submitting to the NDPSC for approval. Not talking about the study for the entire length of the pipeline, I imagine I wouldn't have the time in a week for that. Anyway the the cultural impact study is referenced as a requirement but not mentioned after that. Pretty obvious it wasn't done. What is annoying to me is I'd be surprised if there is a protestor out there who has read the thing or even cares. The ones who aren't paid from outside groups are more than likely doing what the elders tell them from their chairs(voting is done the same way) and have no clue about laws that weren't followed. Therefore we have a standoff over "what if it leaks and kills us all?" when all of this should have been discussed long ago. Construction time is hardly time to decide to pay attention.

Pretty obvious it wasn't done....can you explain that line for us. Not saying your wrong just curious how you came to that conclusion. Its not like Standing rock are the tribe that lived there before we showed up... that was primarily Three Affiliated tribes land not sioux. Thus why Hugh Glass didnt want to go down the grand river because the arikara were there.
 


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