Cannabis vs Alcohol

[wslayer]

If they were to legalize weed, what would the threshold be for too much, and how are they going to rate/gage it? If you were driving and got in an accident, its not like a breathalyzer is going to tell how much you smoked like for alcohol use.
As a user forty yrs ago, I know how the shit spaces you out. Have seen it in myself and friends.
Our court systems will be plugged up with all kinds of legalities.
Not a huge fan of making it legal but if it is, so be it !

 

[Sluggo]

I think ^^^ is a very good point. And I think there is still a strong belief that weed is a gateway drug, unlike alcohol.

 

[Kurtr]

I think ^^^ is a very good point. And I think there is still a strong belief that weed is a gateway drug, unlike alcohol.

Alcohol is the ultimate gateway drug. Every drug I ever did was while boozing

 

[Sluggo]

Alcohol is the ultimate gateway drug. Every drug I ever did was while boozing

I guess we cancel each other out. I’ve drank alcohol all my life but never touched a drug.

 

[Fester]

Law enforcement typically tests for marijuana impairment in driving through a combination of field sobriety tests, saliva swab tests, and blood tests to measure THC levels. However, these methods can have limitations, as THC can remain in the system long after its effects have worn off, making it challenging to determine current impairment.....

If they want you to be charged you will be. Just read an article about a county in MN that charged a whole bunch of people with DUI....turns out one of the machines they were using was giving false readings. Read an article about people I believe was in Nevada being charged with impairment..not dui..breathalizer came back 0. But impairment because officer deemed them to be on something....people were not on anything but had to pay for expensive lawyer to fight it. Point is...it really doesnt matter if your on anything or not...if officer wants you guilty of something you will be charged...up to you to fight it.

 

[lunkerslayer]

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/dri...proves-sleep-stress-and-mood-new-study-shows/

 

[NDSportsman]

This is nuts!

https://www.valleynewslive.com/2025...reduction-center-adds-glass-pipes-drug-users/

 

[scrotcaster]

This is nuts!

https://www.valleynewslive.com/2025...reduction-center-adds-glass-pipes-drug-users/

Got to so some serious mental gymnastics to convince me that this is a good idea. WTF

 

[shorthairsrus]

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/dri...proves-sleep-stress-and-mood-new-study-shows/

Both alcohol and weed can negatively affect the heart, but they have different mechanisms: alcohol is associated with long-term damage from heavy use, while cannabis can cause short-term spikes in heart rate and blood pressure -- yes this is AI's answer not mine.

One weed drink puts you over for driving depending on the state. I know someone this summer that was on our "MN little lake havasu" party area on the lake that said one puts you over---non confirmed by AI.

Arizona any detectable amount puts you over per AI

Back to little havasu: All i know is a 500 acre lake brings in deputy's 5 Saturday's this summer from Becker county on the lake for maybe one or two tickets the entire time. They are after that $35 fee on operators permit. 3 fancy boats and how many lakes in that county., most boats consist of pontoons that cruise at what 2mph; meanwhile the drunks have roads to themselves at night as the deputy dawg is at home after his long shift on the water. am so glad to be old and soon out of this bullshit world. Take that AI and shove it your AI@ss

 

[Jiffy]

This is nuts!

https://www.valleynewslive.com/2025...reduction-center-adds-glass-pipes-drug-users/

Maybe we should provide the meth and fentanyl too!! Great idea..

 

[Rowdie]

Legalities of intoxication while operating automobiles or machinery at work is going to need some out of the box thinking. Maybe just hold those who cause accidents liable whether they're intoxicated or sober. Why should the intoxicated guy get in trouble if he didn't cause the accident?

 

[lunkerslayer]

Both alcohol and weed can negatively affect the heart, but they have different mechanisms: alcohol is associated with long-term damage from heavy use, while cannabis can cause short-term spikes in heart rate and blood pressure -- yes this is AI's answer not mine.

One weed drink puts you over for driving depending on the state. I know someone this summer that was on our "MN little lake havasu" party area on the lake that said one puts you over---non confirmed by AI.

Arizona any detectable amount puts you over per AI

Back to little havasu: All i know is a 500 acre lake brings in deputy's 5 Saturday's this summer from Becker county on the lake for maybe one or two tickets the entire time. They are after that $35 fee on operators permit. 3 fancy boats and how many lakes in that county., most boats consist of pontoons that cruise at what 2mph; meanwhile the drunks have roads to themselves at night as the deputy dawg is at home after his long shift on the water. am so glad to be old and soon out of this bullshit world. Take that AI and shove it your AI@ss

I agree intoxicated is intoxicated no matter what you are on.

 

[Shockwave]

Do both, maybe eat a few shrooms on top of it.

 

[Davy Crockett]

After watching my dad go from a good person when I was a lad to an abusive,cheating alcoholic before I was in my teens , I don't have much good to say about alcohol but I still can't make myself blame it on the booze. It's all about responsibility . At least weed has some medicinal applications . If I would have had a choice in the matter I would have preferred my dad would have been a mellowed out happy weed smoker that would have stayed home and helped out with the chores rather than in the bar with his drinking buddies.

 

[Jiffy]

Remember weed is bad.

Alcohol is good.

We’re just stuck in the 1950s in ND

WHEN some of these old boomers die off it’ll pass.

 

[Kurtr]

Do both, maybe eat a few shrooms on top of it.

Shrooms and other psychedelics really scare big pharma with how they cure ptsd and other ailments of the brain and they loose a money maker

 

[Kurtr]

I know nothing about them. Never done them, never plan on it. I smoked weed in H.S. and would never do that again either. I'm also more of a social drinker. I drink on very rare occasions in the winter, but a lot more in the summer because of the lake vibes and the people out there. I've had some of nights where I've embarrassed myself or did something dumb and had to make some apologies but for the most part, I can keep it pretty calm and just wake up feeling like shit.

Its not a recreational thing its fixing peoples brains with damage. Stanford has done before and after images of the brains from one session of ayahuasca and it has fixed the black spots and got the brain plasticity to before the damage such as breachers syndrome which after 20 years of war there is plenty of that. It has also shown that it can take an addict and it re wires something that they no longer have those cravings. All this from the root of a plant problem is the big pharma does not have a way to profit off it and people have the negative perspective from the war on drugs. Shrooms have taken people with migraines who could not function on a daily level and eliminated them with just micro dosing. Curing people does not make money though want to keep them coming back and buying those pills

 

[Maddog]

I know nothing about them. Never done them, never plan on it. I smoked weed in H.S. and would never do that again either. I'm also more of a social drinker. I drink on very rare occasions in the winter, but a lot more in the summer because of the lake vibes and the people out there. I've had some of nights where I've embarrassed myself or did something dumb and had to make some apologies but for the most part, I can keep it pretty calm and just wake up feeling like shit.

sounds a lot like more story

I embarrass myself too, often without any enhancers.
I should clarify, I embarrass my wife. LOL
She is the sharper knife in the drawer.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Shrooms and other psychedelics really scare big pharma with how they cure ptsd and other ailments of the brain and they loose a money maker

I've read a lot of good things about micro dosing with shrooms. As far as fentanyl goes, that's a hell of a good drug in moderation too. Last winter I pneumonia and then pretty much smashed my left rib cage and couldn't breath. Was in er having muscle and bronchial spasms all night long and they wouldn't give me anything for pain. Dr wanted to transfer me and I refused. Was on 10 liters of 02 with 50 percent 02 level , I was mad as a wet hornet because of refusal for pain meds . Dr had my wife trying to talk me into transferring but I was ready to meet my maker vs another ambulance ride. They made me sign a form before they gave me a shot of fentanyl and within 1/2 hour I was breathing just fine and sitting up in a chair pushing on my rib cage and watching it move 3-4 inches. Without a doubt fentenal saved my life, I never would have made a 1.5 hour ambulance ride. There's good and bad in everything. I remember Bobcat saying he was a med. on the military and carried heroin in his kit. Most "bad" drugs are or were medicine that are abused just the same as alcohol. Problem is the medical industry has to be so careful these days for wrongful lawsuits

 

[Jiffy]

It may have been morphine not heroin. Although I could be wrong!

I know morphine was carried for sure back in the day.