Targeted Removal

[bravo]

You post and let readers draw their own conclusions, huh. No ulterior motive? Why did you bold certain words? And chose not to bold “reviewers” after contributors? Hoping to spin a narrative maybe? At least I’m direct with my views.

Some of my oldest family friends run a butcher shop. They have no issues with wild game business lately and have always cleaned equipment between animals. Know a couple taxidermists as well and they have always had to work with game and fish regs / inspections and some have been busy enough to turn away work, even this year. It’s common knowledge that our GnF was involved in developing what they call “best practices”.

You are the one reaching. I brought up real issues harming our state’s hunting. You’re claiming that hunting is going downhill because of proposed policies regarding taxidermists and butchers? You did your best to spin a narrative and failed.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Info posted by you always smells fishy to most on this site. You need to understand how people perceive your posts. You’re marked dude. Whether you believe it or not, members believe you have some type of hidden agenda. Nobody with the word “cat” in their screen name can be trusted.

LOL

I share info. bravo shares his opinions. He is always trying to get ahead of what I post. That and trying to move the monkey away from Game and Fish policies toward farm orgs and landowners as the culprit.

 

[bravo]

Please specify the policies toward farm orgs and landowners that are the culprit.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

I don't believe there is a meat processor in north dakota that doesn't process your own venison when producing sausage. Atleast the one that I go to doesn't mix what you bring it with someone elses.
As far as scientific evidence that is acceptable to the people of North Dakota, that's debatable. You can't use data that was produced in 2017 as information that hasn't been updated with new scientific findings. I have discussed the reason why that type of research that was submitted in 2017 is suspicious baste on using over exaggerated procedures that would be very hard to duplicate in the real world. Again I don't think state/federal wants to find any creditable evidence that can help save deer numbers, best to let mother nature control the population.

True, they don't give you someone else's meat but do the sanitize every grinder, knife, saw blade, table surface between each and every animal? Probably not.

 

[lunkerslayer]

True, they don't give you someone else's meat but do the sanitize every grinder, knife, saw blade, table surface between each and every animal? Probably not.

You are reaching fritz, what exactly are you trying to prove with this reaching you are doing? Is there groups who have hidden agendas that want to destroy the relationship between sportsman and land owners, of course. I personally dont know your stance on anything that deals with wildlife management in this state. But your reaching has me wondering what are you trying to prove, when we already know that scientific research is inconclusive in any reliable way.

 

[svnmag]

I'm not the brightest knife in the socket. I'm high on the chart as smartest ass: I'm gleaning from this thread the "prion" is a theoretical "fleeting" and farmers don't want strangers hunting on "their" (property taxes) land. Am I fucked up beyond Bud Heavy or reduce the discussion too far?

 

[Fritz the Cat]

You are reaching fritz, what exactly are you trying to prove with this reaching you are doing? Is there groups who have hidden agendas that want to destroy the relationship between sportsman and land owners, of course. I personally dont know your stance on anything that deals with wildlife management in this state. But your reaching has me wondering what are you trying to prove, when we already know that scientific research is inconclusive in any reliable way.

In a meeting at the Capital, Dr. Dan Grove DVM NDGF said CWD will not jump the specie barrier to humans. If a sportsmen shoots a deer and puts in their freezer it may take three months to get the results. By which time some venison has been consumed and most times the sportsmen decides to eat the rest. DVM Dan Grove said it is safe to eat.

But then he chameleons as a Contributor or Reviewer:

Meat processors should process carcasses individually and avoid mixing meat from multiple carcasses into ground meat products. This practice is specifically related to public health concerns including but not limited to CWD. Although CWD-associated prion disease has never been documented in humans, minimizing risk and limiting human exposure to CWD prions by minimizing the mixing of potentially CWD-contaminated carcasses from untested animals is a food safety practice and should be considered a best management practice.

Raise your hand, who wants more rules and regulations?

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Please specify the policies toward farm orgs and landowners that are the culprit.

You made the claim saying.

The thing is Lunk, we don't all want the same thing. Fritz and the Farm bureau want the game and fish department gone. Read their policies and ask why any outdoorsman would consider them an ally.

Uffda

 

[svnmag]

So "Bravo" believes in prions and "Fritz" doesn't want anyone on "his" land?

 

[svnmag]

Seems incumbent to prove the "prion" and synthesis a vaccine.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Raise your hand, who wants more rules and regulations?

You mean like electronic posting? Where did the Farm Bureau stand on that? Soon high fence will be the only hunting available. Who would want that ---- oh did I forget something?

 

[Fritz the Cat]

So "Bravo" believes in prions and believes "Fritz" doesn't want anyone on "his" land?

Fixed it for you. I do not hunt deer, yotes etc. Come and get'em.

I hunt upland and waterfowl.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

You mean like electronic posting? Where did the Farm Bureau stand on that? Soon high fence will be the only hunting available. Who would want that ---- oh did I forget something?

Remember that time over on nodakouthouse when you were the moderator and admonished me to post things in the proper topic. This thread isn't about electronic posting.

 

[bravo]

This thread wasn’t about butcher shop cleanliness policies either. I’d argue that lack of access and hunters hanging up their guns would do more harm to butchers and taxidermists. I’ll concede that there’s good people who are members of ndfb, but the org as a whole is anti-hunter. Especially to the average Joe.

Why did you skate around my question Fritz? Can you specify which game and fish policies are the culprit?

 

[NDSportsman]

Yes - we must remove ALL the deer in affected areas, especially those that are resistant to CWD.

We don't want natural selection to be occurring and mess this up for us. That would be insane.

Yeah makes zero fricking sense. Seriously what the hell are biologists learning these days???

 

[1bigfokker]

They're working from home.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

This thread wasn’t about butcher shop cleanliness policies either. I’d argue that lack of access and hunters hanging up their guns would do more harm to butchers and taxidermists. I’ll concede that there’s good people who are members of ndfb, but the org as a whole is anti-hunter. Especially to the average Joe.

Why did you skate around my question Fritz? Can you specify which game and fish policies are the culprit?

I am a part owner in a butcher shop.

I simply posted MDC is going to be sharp shooting deer in Missouri and the AFWA Supplement document signed by three from NDGF. It's shared information.

 

[bravo]

I am a part owner in a butcher shop.

I simply posted MDC is going to be sharp shooting deer in Missouri and the AFWA Supplement document signed by three from NDGF. It's shared information.

Ok, want to clarify on which game and fish policies are your culprits?

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Ok, want to clarify on which game and fish policies are your culprits?

I never said that. I was referencing your rant thread derailment:

The thing is Lunk, we don't all want the same thing. Fritz and the Farm bureau want the game and fish department gone. Read their policies and ask why any outdoorsman would consider them an ally. They don't want you on the dirt roads if you aren't farming or ranching. I have a FB neighbor that gives me problems because my land isn't in production even though noxious weeds are controlled. He just thinks that since its purely recreational he can tell me what to do and that is their mindset. They say they're on the hunter's side, but that's only now while its convenient. Talk to Daryl L, Gabe and his son, or the CWD FB page. The conversation will go from "it's about baiting, its about kids/handicapped opportunities, it's about nutrition, it's about government overreach, it's about landowner rights". In that order. Every time. They don't have a specific problem, or solution. It's just game and fish = bad, farmers and ranchers need to be in charge. NDFB have a plan of "death by a thousand paper cuts" through legislation until hunters and fishermen have no more interest in ND outdoors and they have control. They will control everything; tag allocation, access, you name it and I 100% guarantee you will see this coming down the pipe. In fact, I will bookmark this post and bring it back at the next biennium. Once we set the precedent that game and fish laws are legislated via emotional outrage, we will circle the drain.

 

[bravo]

LOL

I share info. bravo shares his opinions. He is always trying to get ahead of what I post. That and trying to move the monkey away from Game and Fish policies toward farm orgs and landowners as the culprit.

Ok there’s your quote. Unless I’m misunderstanding, we were discussing management policies and I stated my opinion. You brought up “the conservation boyz” whoever that is and I brought up farm bureau and what I believe your/their motives are.

So I’ll ask again, what game and fish policies toward farm orgs and landowners are the culprit?