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Fritz the Cat

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69th Legislative Assembly (2025-27)

SB 2137​

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01/1710:20 AMBill HearingSenate Agriculture and Veterans AffairsFort UnionThe use of supplemental feed for hunting. THE MEETING LOCATION FOR THIS BILL HEARING WILL BE IN THE JWING OF THE CAPITOL... ROOM 216.
Bill HearingSenate Agriculture and Veterans Affairs216Relating to the use of supplemental feed for hunting.
01/171:30 PMBill HearingSenate Agriculture and Veterans Affairs216CONTINUATION FROM THE MORNING HEARING - Relating to the use of supplemental feed for hunting
01/232:38 PMCommittee WorkSenate Agriculture and Veterans AffairsFort UnionCommittee Work: Relating to the use of supplemental feed for hunting.
03/078:30 AMBill HearingHouse Energy and Natural ResourcesCoteau ABRelating to the use of supplemental feed for hunting; and to provide an expiration date.Submit Testimony

2137 passed the Senate and after crossover moves to the House side. It was amended to include a four-year sunset clause to see how things are progressing. It has to pass the House in identical form, no more amendments. I wouldn't see a problem if the Bill had stayed in the House Ag committee. Chairman of the House Natural Resources, Rep. Todd Porter wants it in his committee.

Written testimony is beginning to come in.

https://ndlegis.gov/assembly/69-202...y/bt2137.html?bill_year=2025&bill_number=2137

In January written testimony largely favored 2137. That is needed again. Click on the blue Submit Testimony and follow the prompts.
 


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Guys in the northeast part of the state and eastern side better start contacting your house members and submitting testimony…… like predicted they are trying to slowly close the entire state a few units at a time. These will be the new units restricted if the game and fish follows their own “science” which up to this point we know they have not.
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The Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies is a 501(C)6 non-profit. The Western Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies is a 501(C)4 non-profit.


ND is within the Western. The WAFWA is a large area including Alaska, six Canadian Provinces and the western half of the U.S. The WAFWA has committees and working groups. What we debate about Chronic Wasting Disease is here:


Wildlife Health Committee – WAFWA


Scroll down to full roster or:


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ND Game and Fish Director Jeb Williams is leadership sponsor and ND DVM Charlie Bahnson are on the panel of 28.


The WAFWA Wildlife Health Committee helped write the Best Management Practices 111 pages and BMP's 1st Supplement 22 pages. Short on science, long on supporting data. They are a wish list of changes AFWA would like to enact. (Especially no feeding of wildlife. CWD or prion theory provides the "crisis") They are recommendations, not law. People are yielding to the BMP's because they believe it came from somewhere higher. The Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies is not an agency, it is a non-profit NGO.


Elon Musk just did a podcast with Joe Rogan. He said,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fits_into_billions_in_government_funding.html


"The whole 'NGO' thing is a nightmare," Musk said. "And it's a misnomer because if you have a government-funded non-governmental organization, you're simply a government-funded organization. It's an oxymoron." He added: "It does some good. So it’s not like 0% good. If it was really 0% good, it would be much easier to attack. So there’s going to be some percentage of good that they add in there. But it might be 5% or 10% good, while 90–95% is not."
 


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If you need help or can't figure out how to submit testimony let me know I can help you or do it for you lets get this bill passed and end hunting restrictions also contact and talk to the committee members and your representatives
 

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This thing has hit national media and out of state interests with no actual on the ground experience in north dakota are weighing in (a vast majority of them are uneducated on the matter as it pertains to north dakota). Need a big push from the people of north dakota to get this bill to the finish line.

Lets make sure we reach out so the north dakota legislature listen to the people of NORTH DAKOTA (who have supported at over a 70% rate both this session and last) and get this bill passed!
 


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At eight minutes Dr. Christopher Seabury talks about agency testing testing testing. And after all the testing there is not one single next step.

Dr. Seabury is into DNA, genomes and giving an animal a breeding value. Some of you guys like guywhofishes and kdm would like this video because he addresses sharp shooting or just killing deer as bad because the agencies are indiscriminately shooting good genetics.

The DNA genomes testing is way less invasive than rectal and/or tonsil biopsies. It's an ear punch. A small circular cut pushing hair, blood and tissue into a vial of formalin. I have one that I used to do purity testing. About $40 bucks per sample.

There are actually two farmed deer herds in North Dakota enrolled in Seabury's program. It takes years to come up with animals that score high in Seabury's codon levels program.
 

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You were right Fritz. I did indeed enjoy that discussion. Scientific, Logical, Unemotional, Common Sense based discussion of reality vs. ideology. If I had to pick one statement in that entire discussion to highlight it would be this. "Where are the matrix of efficacy for regulatory bans on hunting activities? Basically, show the people (not just hunters) where hunting bans are reducing cwd spread by "X" amount. Answer: There are none. I also enjoyed the update on genetic identifications for cwd tolerance in both wild and captive deer. I did smile at the statement that "Mother nature doesn't have a zero tolerance for cwd, only people do". That should make all the fear mongering, chicken little, cwd apocalyptic cronies pop a vein.
 

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Have been saying it for years, money for research, zero money for surveillance and monitoring.

Dr. Seabury summed it all up in one sentence, "after all the testing, there is not one single next step."

I am for all things research. Dusty Backer is about feeding vitamins and minerals to keep the deer healthy.

Brock Wahl with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers testified, "if we could ban feeding we would." We is plural. Who is Brock speaking for?

There are no controls on deer. They don't stay six feet apart etc. But there are a lot of controls wanted on sportsmen.
 

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but dusty told me there aint no such thing as a prion n shared plenty of science to prove it plus he proved its just the fish n game tryin to control our food source n wct12 said its so we can feed the starvin deer n someone else said its so old folks n kids stay huntin cuz they got no attention span so jist tell me the bottom line so I know what to scream at the libs on facebook
 


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Prions are in dirt
Deer eat dirt
Deer infected with prions
Krysten Schuler at Cornell University is a sponsor of the 111 pages of BMP's. She testified before Congress how scary CWD is. Her written testimony:

https://democrats-naturalresources....ler - Testimony - O&I Ov Hrg 06.25.19 CWD.pdf

Prions can also bind to or be taken up into plant tissues and spread disease. Experimental food crops testing positive thus far include alfalfa, wheat, corn, and tomatoes. These findings present a potential route of prion exposure for wildlife, domestic animals, and humans following consumption of these plants. Additionally, there is concern that other countries may ban export of crops from areas with CWD. Agricultural commodities, such as hay and straw, in CWDaffected areas may be baled with infected feces and moved inter-state or internationally. The European Food Safety Authority recognized this risk in their assessment of CWD in Norway. Consequently, Norway banned hay and straw imports from North America that do not have an accompanying veterinary statement verifying the products originated from a CWD-free zone.

And also, from the National Institute of Health:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4449294/
 

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Very good thread fritz I knew you would bring up some good information based on ole fashion common sense.
Thats why I posted about tens states that actually have a deer population problem, I wonder if anyone has been testing in those states for prions in soil as well as deer genetics. To see.of those deer have a genetic mutation that makes them immune to the prion.
 

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Very good thread fritz I knew you would bring up some good information based on ole fashion common sense.
Thats why I posted about tens states that actually have a deer population problem, I wonder if anyone has been testing in those states for prions in soil as well as deer genetics. To see.of those deer have a genetic mutation that makes them immune to the prion.
No or at least you will never hear about it because if it turned out there’s CWD in those herds too then it would completely demolish their narrative cwd is killing off fhe deer. The same way they omit any studies or data from areas where populations continue to grow in spite of cwd being prevalent. Cherry picked data is more prevalent than cwd when you peel back the curtain.
 

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