Highway 23 n 83

[Allen]

Put as single overpass with 23 going over top and on and off ramps. Couldn’t be much more expensive than this conglomeration. Every intersection on interstate is like that

Agreed, but I knew they would look at this as an opportunity for another roundabout. It just had that smell. I drive that way often using 83 to get to 23 and then west to the rez and just don't think the traffic heading west is enough to create much congestion at a standard overpass with on/off ramps.

Then again, I'm sure they've done the vehicle count and have more details than I am privy to.

 

[Allen]

estimated 16 million for the roundabout and between 50 and 60 million for overpass

That's a pretty big difference in cost.

 

[risingsun]

Then again, I'm sure they've done the vehicle count and have more details than I am privy to.

2800 I believe

 

[lunkerslayer]

It's all discussed extensively in the video i posted, no need to speculate if one just watches the video.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I think overhead lighting all away across this intersection with big overhead signs to give motorists better visual directions would help with low light foggy situations.

 

[SLE]

Historic traffic count information can be found on the states GIS system.

https://gis.dot.nd.gov/external/ge_html/?viewer=ext_transinfo

The counts they have on that map are from 2020 and show around 2000 Average Daily Traffic (ADT) on highway 23 west and 5700 / 4400 ADT respectively on north and south 83.

 

[lunkerslayer]

 

[Mort]

like said in a post earlier, you cannot fix stupid driver that don't pay attention, we are doweling out money because drivers don't understand how to drive, driven that highway many times as most of you have, passed through the accident that happened this past fall. I'd be curious about the drivers that were involved in the accident, if they didn't know how that intersection works as being the first time they have passed through that area or were frequent travelers that been through there.
I always look down road when approaching that area if I'm traveling south to bismarck and watch the right were 23 comes to intersection, you can tell if a dumb nut going too fast and not going to stop and etc. Guess I'm saying if you are traveling south you have to be the defensive driver in that area, cover your own ass and watch for the other drivers.

I agree with bringing the two lanes together and have an overpass coming off 23 to merge south or north....not that hard to figure out, too bad they have too worry about the cost, if its going to save a life like they want it to or if safety is the main concern.....then cost shouldn't even be an issue the state has wasted more money on other stupid road projects so why should it matter.
my two cents