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I know some of you like your chew but you have to get rid of that crap. It is disgusting. It makes your teeth brown, makes your breath smell like a trash can and it will give you cancer. Nothing more disgusting than a can full of spit and chew. Worse than cat shit.
 


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NDBWHUNTER, I have been a little apprehensive to start the program based off of the commitment I know it takes. Did you follow the program to a "T"?? I take projym, the multi vitamin, fish oil and did use the Shredjym for a month(gives me a headache). I can consistently get to the gym 4 days a week, not sure if that is enough to give shortcut to shred a fair shake. I have been also considering the HIT100 workout that he designed. Thanks for your previous reply

I've used the program twice and never made it past week 3 or 4. With work, family and hobbies, it was difficult for me to dedicate my free time to the gym. I still made it 4-5 days a week, but the program was designed for 6 days. I was pretty good about the diet (except on the weekends) and lost about 10lbs in the first two weeks. I guess if you're uncertain about making it to the gym 6 days a week, stick with what you know you can do. You don't have to use his program to incorporate his principles into a workout. Find a program that you're comfortable with and incorporate the cardio acceleration. So instead of resting between sets, you'll do 30-60 seconds of cardio acceleration, and the jump into the next set.

Make sure to stick with a program or routine that focuses on higher reps 10-15 or 15-20. I wouldn't do the cardio acceleration while lifting in the 4-8 rep range. Using heavier weights requires some rest between sets.
 

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The only thing more annoying than exercising on purpose is dieting on purpose. They both suck. I have been trying to avoid processed foods and add fruit and veggies. Some lean meat, green beans, and bowl of fruit is the ticket. I have also been trying to do semi-fun things that also require exercise. I am looking forward to getting outside again. Owning a dog helps as a walk by yourself is mind numbingly boring, but with a dog it can be fun. Cocktailing is the demise of many a diet, but it's too fun to cut out all together. The worst part is the post cocktailing munchies and the yearning for a grease burger the next day. At 35 I am starting realize this body is not an invincible machine anymore. What a guy eats and some exercise gets even more important with age.

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I think a lot of people set themselves up for failure with a radical diet and exercise change. I've done it in the past. The longest I made it was about 6 weeks before I started hating life. I am more into moderate adjustments that are tolerable over the long-term at this point.
 

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fly2cast, there's two types of people. Those that want to lose weight and those that want to be healthier. Your weight is only a percentage of the overall effect of working out. Muscle weighs more than fat. Pretty simple. If that's your only outcome, not eating works wonders for losing weight. The problem with only losing weight is that 99% of people gain it back. I'll show you the person who stayed the same weight but changed their body composition and I guarantee, they look healthier than the person that just went out to lose weight. Calorie counting is a dead horse as well. I can eat my daily allowance of skittles and call it calorie counting. Proteins, fats and carbohydrates all have their place. It's the portions and ratios of those three things that make someone a healthy eater.
 

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I have a dumb question and am asking it because I am one of those fortunate people that can eat quite a bit and not gain weight, although that is becoming less true as I get older. Isn't the reason most people gain weight because they eat more than they need? In other words, you can't gain 10lbs if you only eat 5lbs, right?
 


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I have a dumb question and am asking it because I am one of those fortunate people that can eat quite a bit and not gain weight, although that is becoming less true as I get older. Isn't the reason most people gain weight because they eat more than they need? In other words, you can't gain 10lbs if you only eat 5lbs, right?

Portion size is important, but it's more about what you eat rather than how much you eat. Everyone is different with regards to their caloric needs. I can eat 4000 calories a day, and if I'm expending more calories than I consume, I will lose weight. Now if those 4000 calories consisted of reeses peanut butter eggs and snickers, I would still be fat even if I burned them off. Your body will use up all of its glycogen before dipping into the fat cells for energy, this is where fat burning occurs. Feeding your body processed foods that are filled with sugar will only provide fuel in the form of glycogen, which will result in little to no fat loss.

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fly2cast, there's two types of people. Those that want to lose weight and those that want to be healthier. Your weight is only a percentage of the overall effect of working out. Muscle weighs more than fat. Pretty simple. If that's your only outcome, not eating works wonders for losing weight. The problem with only losing weight is that 99% of people gain it back. I'll show you the person who stayed the same weight but changed their body composition and I guarantee, they look healthier than the person that just went out to lose weight. Calorie counting is a dead horse as well. I can eat my daily allowance of skittles and call it calorie counting. Proteins, fats and carbohydrates all have their place. It's the portions and ratios of those three things that make someone a healthy eater.

This is why I'm not a fan of the fad diets like Atkins and Paleo. They are difficult to stick with for an extended period of time, and a majority of the people will eventually gain the weight back. In my opinion, a diet is a temporary endeavor that will eventually come to an end. Try to think of it as a lifestyle change rather than a diet.

No more than 30% of your caloric intake should come from fats. Ideally, that number should be around 15-20%, and the fats should come from eggs, fish, nuts/seeds, and unsaturated fats (olive and coconut oils). Protein and carbs will account for roughly 50% and 30% of the daily caloric intake. These will be your lean meats (chicken, turkey, fish/seafood, pork, venison), and whole wheat/grains (breads, pastas, brown rice, oats, etc.). Just need to find the right balance to meet the needs of your body.
 

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DirtyMike you are right losing weight alone doesn't make you healthy. I wasn't offing advice on being healthy. I was offering advise on losing weight. The original post was about losing weight. If you lose the amount of weight you want and stick mainly to a balanced diet, you shouldn't gain too much weight back. But if you go back to bad habits of eating the sugars and such, you will gain back.

By the way, it is absolutely possible to lose weight by eating only surgary foods such as skittles and twinkies. Just eat less than 1800 calories of twinkies a day and you will lose weight. Not saying you will be healthy, but you will lose weight. It's been done by numerous people just to prove that it can be done. People make this way more complicated than it is. Don't believe me, read this:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/
 

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you're comparing apples to oranges. weight loss and healthy eating are two totally different things. Weight loss should be a result of healthy eating. You can achieve weight loss by a number of ways, many of them unhealthy. I cut 30 lbs my senior season of high school wrestling and the only healthy act I did was exercise. Argue all you want, there has been some worthwhile information already posted, yours not included.
 

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you're comparing apples to oranges. weight loss and healthy eating are two totally different things. Weight loss should be a result of healthy eating. You can achieve weight loss by a number of ways, many of them unhealthy. I cut 30 lbs my senior season of high school wrestling and the only healthy act I did was exercise. Argue all you want, there has been some worthwhile information already posted, yours not included.

Are you admitting to being involved in some unhealthy acts your senior year of high school? :D
 

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Dirty Mike is right on with everything

I eat like a horse. Most of you would shit your britches if you saw how much I eat. I'm as lean and mean as they come.:;:rockit

I work out a lot and it isn't cardio. I hate cardio. I pick things up and put them down and then eat a whole elk.
 


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Dirty Mike is right on with everything

I eat like a horse. Most of you would shit your britches if you saw how much I eat. I'm as lean and mean as they come.:;:rockit

I work out a lot and it isn't cardio. I hate cardio. I pick things up and put them down and then eat a whole elk.

Just curious how old are you? I was like that until about age 40.
 

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I was like that till 25 then had kid got married and time to work out alot went away
 

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I don't know ron, that sounds kind of gay....I think you guys are meaning to post this shit under your pintrest accounts :::
 

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I'm 31. I have 3 kids which makes it more challenging for sure.

Lifestyle more than a diet like someone else said.
 

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Working out is great. You can eat whatever you want, energy goes through the roof, libido goes way up, and confidence increases. All good things. #cornnutsarebadmkay
 


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OK DirtyMike, what have I said that is unhealthy? Honestly, what about limiting your calorie intake to under 2000 calories as a way to lose weight, unhealthy. I never advocated the twinkie diet, I only stated that to lose weight you need to cut the calorie intake. Now if you want to make your calories something from a healthy diet, then great. You go boy. And if you want to exercise to help lose weight, then great. But it is completely acceptable and healthy to lose weight by diet alone. There is plenty of evidence to support that weight loss alone will make you healthier.

My main point is that we set ourselves up for weight loss failure when we make it too complicated. Have to work out this long, have to eat this kind of food, have to do this, have to do that. It's too hard. Again, all I'm saying is that keep the calories under 2000 (1800 is better).
 

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I know some of you like your chew but you have to get rid of that crap. It is disgusting. It makes your teeth brown, makes your breath smell like a trash can and it will give you cancer. Nothing more disgusting than a can full of spit and chew. Worse than cat shit.

I hate spit bottles. That is why you have to gut it like a real man. :cool:

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OK DirtyMike, what have I said that is unhealthy? Honestly, what about limiting your calorie intake to under 2000 calories as a way to lose weight, unhealthy. I never advocated the twinkie diet, I only stated that to lose weight you need to cut the calorie intake. Now if you want to make your calories something from a healthy diet, then great. You go boy. And if you want to exercise to help lose weight, then great. But it is completely acceptable and healthy to lose weight by diet alone. There is plenty of evidence to support that weight loss alone will make you healthier.

My main point is that we set ourselves up for weight loss failure when we make it too complicated. Have to work out this long, have to eat this kind of food, have to do this, have to do that. It's too hard. Again, all I'm saying is that keep the calories under 2000 (1800 is better).

you can either cut the calories or exercise more and eat the same calories. I like food so I exercise more. haha
 

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Are you admitting to being involved in some unhealthy acts your senior year of high school? :D
Yep. Daily. I didn't eat for days at a time and paired it with two practices a day. Hell of a way to lose weight.

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OK DirtyMike, what have I said that is unhealthy? Honestly, what about limiting your calorie intake to under 2000 calories as a way to lose weight, unhealthy. I never advocated the twinkie diet, I only stated that to lose weight you need to cut the calorie intake. Now if you want to make your calories something from a healthy diet, then great. You go boy. And if you want to exercise to help lose weight, then great. But it is completely acceptable and healthy to lose weight by diet alone. There is plenty of evidence to support that weight loss alone will make you healthier.

My main point is that we set ourselves up for weight loss failure when we make it too complicated. Have to work out this long, have to eat this kind of food, have to do this, have to do that. It's too hard. Again, all I'm saying is that keep the calories under 2000 (1800 is better).

Heres the problem I have with your view. In the same breath you tell us that people need to limit caloric intake to lose weight AND then you can't tell people to limit something or they are set up for failure. Doesn't make sense. Eat healthier foods (lower in calories) + exercise (net negative calories) = healthier, lighter person.
 


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