Property Tax Credit

[Allen]

BTW, I had a good day fishing. Caught only one, but damn...it was good.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Weren’t you one of the “tax me harder daddy” crowd. Didn’t you also say something along the lines of “ Leave us farm boys out of your bad decisions”. You seem to be doing a lot of bitching about property tax now, you are getting what you voted for.

Yes, I did say that . I'll pay my taxes and you pay yours.

Davy, No, you never said that. Nobody other than the "let someone else pay for me" crowd has ever said "tax me harder". And, they only do it to annoy those of us with a reasonable understanding of how shit gets paid for that we all benefit from.

I am sorry that the money I've paid into the system didn't lower your property taxes (seriously!), because if I had a fugging choice, I'd much rather pay for lowering your taxes than the A-holes who bring this shit up all the fucking time. Hell, my property taxes were near $3k a couple years ago, and they are now about $1200 and change.

Life choices = life impacts. Move the fuck away from government services is my suggestion to those who don't like their property taxes.

I am neither well served, or paying exorbitant property taxes. Life is good if you're paying attention to the world around you.


G"damnit shorts. Take a fucking English composition course! We really think (I guess I am assuming others feel as I do) that you have a meaningful understanding of something interesting to us, but you absolutely SUCK at the English fucking language. Fix that, please...

JFC, if you were my tax person I'd have to fire you simply because I couldn't understand you. I am so glad I don't have that concern with my accountants and tax people. You can't possibly be this difficult to understand in real life. WTF!

Haha, I was going to lead obi on for a while and then respond about like you did.

Obi, I happen to own land in two townships , not a bunch of land but just happens that it's on a township line. One township has a very populated recreation lake and mostly solid timber and wetlands and the other township is mostly farm land. Acre for Acre, I pay WAY more taxes in the township with the recreation lake and expensive cabins than I am in the township with farmland.
I don't claim to know much of anything about city taxes other than I know what my boy pays in West Fargo and it's insane compared to mine. So there you have it. I'd be a bigger fool than you if I ever even came close to letting you letting you convince me to change my mind. We both know there is no such thing as free lunch.

The way the bill was written without a plan or prognosis was just nuts. I would be a BIG fool to give up what little rights and laws I have in my favor and flat out hand them to the state and take a chance that it will be justful ? Not a chance .

 

[Zogman]

Allen for someone who is the smartest guy on here let me make this simple!
Don't click on Short. Use the ignore button. Keep reading him and you will have the big one!
By the way I got a C- in English.

 

[Fester]

My question to Allen is when is to much for him? I am glad you only pay $3k or whatever it is. Do you realize in 6 years it could be $6k or $10k. Really whats your limit because it will eventually be reached..unless you have no limit....

 

[Allen]

My question to Allen is when is to much for him? I am glad you only pay $3k or whatever it is. Do you realize in 6 years it could be $6k or $10k. Really whats your limit because it will eventually be reached..unless you have no limit....

I don't know my limit, but what I do know is that there are more services provided to those that live in the ritz'ier neighborhoods than I live that I don't want. Hence my tax bill is lower because I don't live there.

There is absolutely nothing stopping one from moving to a lower property tax neighborhood. But living where services are greater than another place and bitching about the overall bill for those services is kinda like complaining about the price of a Big Mac.

Note, I don't eat at McDonalds.

Note 2, I live near Lincoln, ND. People have been flocking to Lincoln for quite a few years because of the generally lower property taxes, while electing people who think growth is the key to prosperity. Well, that shit is going to cause increased property taxes in the near future as more people equals more demand for services. Hence, their property taxes are going to skyrocket as they have had to install a new water supply line from Bismarck, AND they are going to install a sewer line back to Bismarck. You can't have new infrastructure for free. It's going to really piss off those who have lived here for years with relatively low property taxes.

Hell, when I moved here in 2012, Lincoln struggled to staff a police department of about 3 officers. Nowadays, that same PD is supposed to be around 7(?) officers.

I live rural and have to pay those expenses out of pocket if my septic field fails, or if I need a new well. Inflation is real, learn to prepare for it, or prepare to fail at life.

 

[shorthairsrus]

Good waste of tax dollars advertising the property tax credit during sunday football. I imagine that isnt cheap. Make a one and done syatem Nope not ND

 

[Fester]

I don't know my limit, but what I do know is that there are more services provided to those that live in the ritz'ier neighborhoods than I live that I don't want. Hence my tax bill is lower because I don't live there.

There is absolutely nothing stopping one from moving to a lower property tax neighborhood. But living where services are greater than another place and bitching about the overall bill for those services is kinda like complaining about the price of a Big Mac.

Note, I don't eat at McDonalds.

Note 2, I live near Lincoln, ND. People have been flocking to Lincoln for quite a few years because of the generally lower property taxes, while electing people who think growth is the key to prosperity. Well, that shit is going to cause increased property taxes in the near future as more people equals more demand for services. Hence, their property taxes are going to skyrocket as they have had to install a new water supply line from Bismarck, AND they are going to install a sewer line back to Bismarck. You can't have new infrastructure for free. It's going to really piss off those who have lived here for years with relatively low property taxes.

Hell, when I moved here in 2012, Lincoln struggled to staff a police department of about 3 officers. Nowadays, that same PD is supposed to be around 7(?) officers.

I live rural and have to pay those expenses out of pocket if my septic field fails, or if I need a new well. Inflation is real, learn to prepare for it, or prepare to fail at life.

Sure but when everyone flocks to the lower tax levels what do you think is gonna happen? New services new streets new new new etc...your rates will go up. Thats why i asked whats your limit because at some point it will be met. I am more against the not being able to own your home more then I am the tax itself. I get things need to be paid for but when you own something it should not be able to be taken away from you by the govt. There is another way they can get their money they need for infrastructure and sevices. Right now they have a blank check.

 

[johnr]

Sure but when everyone flocks to the lower tax levels what do you think is gonna happen? New services new streets new new new etc...your rates will go up. Thats why i asked what's your limit because at some point it will be met. I am more against the not being able to own your home more then I am the tax itself. I get things need to be paid for but when you own something it should not be able to be taken away from you by the govt. There is another way they can get their money they need for infrastructure and services. Right now they have a blank check.

Water, sewer, garbage, police, fire, is all paid outside of property taxes. Heck even your street and sidewalk repair are special assessments.
Zero reason the snow removal, school bonds, street lights, etc. could not be paid in the same fashion?

Stark county is over double the legally allowed reserves in the coffers from over taxation of us residents. The struggle is real.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Renters Don't forget ​

Renter's Refund​

The Renter's Refund program provides a partial refund on rent for a renter’s place of residence or a mobile home lot. Heat, water, lights, telephone, or furniture costs are not considered rent costs. If these costs are included in the rent, the renter must subtract these costs from rent when applying for the refund. Refunds are not available for rent or fees paid by persons living in properties that are exempt from property tax, such as nursing homes.

Qualifications​

• 65 years of age or older, OR An individual with a permanent and total disability. (Proof of total disability must be established by a certificate from a licensed physician or a written determination of disability from the Social Security Administration or federal or state agency authorized to certify an individual’s disability.)
  • Not have income that exceeds $70,000, including the income of your spouse and any dependents, for the calendar year preceding the assessment date. There is no asset limitation for renters.
  • Have annual rent payments that are a certain percentage of your income. If 20% of your annual rent exceeds 4% of your annual income, you are eligible for a refund up to $600.
    • For example, a renter pays $800 per month in rent ($9,600 per year) and the renter’s income is $35,000.
      • 20% of $9,600 (rent) is $1,920
      • 4% of $35,000 (income) is $1,400
      • $1,920 - $1,400 = $520 Renter’s Refund