Taxes...ugh

johnr

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Seriously a farmer has rules to follow, he can not leave a crop sit and collect a payment if said crop has value. However a welfare collector can sit and get paid regardless of worth or work ethic, including a ton of free opportunity bullshit shoved in their face, which most times shoves them further into the free shit attitude that somehow my hard work entitles them to more pay
 


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Google crop insurance fraud, then tell me all farmers follow the rules. Insurance is taken out to help cover the overhead of standing crops that get damaged. I said I like cheap food that is only able to be done with government help.
 

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Everyone needs to hurry up and pay it in so that I can draw it out. Us farmers ya know. :D
 

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Can anyone tell me why the tax refund I got last year is taxed this year??? Hasn't that money already been taxed?
 


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What really pisses me off is when people get MORE BACK THAN THEY PAY IN!!! They actually make money on taxes!! WTF. If the gov't wants to give them a break and say OK, you didn't make enough money with all the kids/dependents, you owe nothing. I'm kinda ok with that, (not really buts its better than it is now). But to get more back than you paid in.....WTF....!!!! ;:;banghead
 

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Can anyone tell me why the tax refund I got last year is taxed this year??? Hasn't that money already been taxed?

Your state refund is taxable from last year, federal is done first so they guess on state tax when doing federal. If there is a refund then that would have been "normal income" from last year that wasn't taxed yet by the federal, so it is taxed the next year.
 

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Can anyone tell me why the tax refund I got last year is taxed this year??? Hasn't that money already been taxed?

It's only taxed if you deducted based on what you paid in the prior year. Otherwise, it's not. Example would be you deducted $1000 that you had withheld or had paid in the prior year. But when you did that year's taxes after that year's end you got $300 back. The following year that $300 would be income because you deducted $1000 but really only owed $700 that year.

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What really pisses me off is when people get MORE BACK THAN THEY PAY IN!!! They actually make money on taxes!! WTF. If the gov't wants to give them a break and say OK, you didn't make enough money with all the kids/dependents, you owe nothing. I'm kinda ok with that, (not really buts its better than it is now). But to get more back than you paid in.....WTF....!!!! ;:;banghead

Originally, the earned income tax credit (which is more than likely why some do) was based on the theory that poorer people when they purchase things, which for them was basic living expenses, part of the costs of the things they purchased was taxes that those businesses would be paying. The earned income tax credit was to help those lower income people out by giving them a credit for those taxes that they paid. Afterall, anytime you buy something the cost of that product includes that entities taxes and all other costs associated with it. However, in todays world, this isn't necessarily the case and the amount of the credit is more politically based. The one half way good thing about it is that at least you need to earn some income in order to get it.

Here's a link that shows aquick little chart of the amounts. http://fileyourtaxesnow.com/2015-earned-income-tax-credit-eitc-chart/
 


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Johnr, Ill buy you a beer one of these weekends. We got a new tax guy and he got us over 30k in new write-offs this year. Me=happy camper. First few rounds are on me.
 

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Johnr, Ill buy you a beer one of these weekends. We got a new tax guy and he got us over 30k in new write-offs this year. Me=happy camper. First few rounds are on me.

You must be a dirty farmer.:;:

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No I dont, I effn hate it.
I bettered my position in the income world thru work and excess work, and now I'm in the next bracket full of punishment and racism
#taxpayersincomesmattertothetaxpayertoo
Vote bernie I need free shit too. Now that I'm paying for it 8s it really free?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng
 

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It's only taxed if you deducted based on what you paid in the prior year. Otherwise, it's not. Example would be you deducted $1000 that you had withheld or had paid in the prior year. But when you did that year's taxes after that year's end you got $300 back. The following year that $300 would be income because you deducted $1000 but really only owed $700 that year.

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Originally, the earned income tax credit (which is more than likely why some do) was based on the theory that poorer people when they purchase things, which for them was basic living expenses, part of the costs of the things they purchased was taxes that those businesses would be paying. The earned income tax credit was to help those lower income people out by giving them a credit for those taxes that they paid. Afterall, anytime you buy something the cost of that product includes that entities taxes and all other costs associated with it. However, in todays world, this isn't necessarily the case and the amount of the credit is more politically based. The one half way good thing about it is that at least you need to earn some income in order to get it.

Here's a link that shows aquick little chart of the amounts. http://fileyourtaxesnow.com/2015-earned-income-tax-credit-eitc-chart/

Oh, I get it now (earned income tax credit) The gov't want to give them back ALL the taxes they may have paid throughout the year. Seems fair. (do I really need the sarcasm button?) Yeah, these boys have it figured out down here. They'll work at casino for enough time to make sure they get a NICE return, then quit. I know the casino won't hire them back for a set period of time, but its like 6 months. People have definitely figured out that working too much is counter productive. The gov't rewards bad life choices and punishes people who advance and make more money. Oh, I guess punish is the wrong word, we are rewarded with helping our fellow man by paying higher taxes. (There's not a sarcasm button big enough for that last sentence)
 


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Lol coming from an insurance agent, farmers would never not take out a claim which they are rightfully entitled to. At least welfare participants come in all shapes and sizes. Even insurance salemans who sell crop insurance.

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I like cheap food, I like cheap gas, and I like big breastesssss!
can you point me in the direction of this cheap food?
 

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I got audited............uggggghhh. Haven't even filed yet this year and it's a mess.
 

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did you work 15 hours a day for 365 days straight then claim an extra 30k of write offs on your tax return....they might see that as fishy and audit you
 


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