Teachers

[Zogman]

lol. Did you always take your ball home and play by yourself? I bet you’re a blast to work with or be around. Do you melt when you don’t get your way? Soft. By the way, you add nothing to this site.

Wrong. I enjoy and have learned from BnB posts. Do you even hunt or fish???
Or do you just pee in the wind and enjoy it???
NO REPLY NEEDED.

 

[camper]

Wrong. I enjoy and have learned from BnB posts. Do you even hunt or fish???
Or do you just pee in the wind and enjoy it???
NO REPLY NEEDED.

Hunt, fish, golf, family, church, friends, just not the whiny bitch that so many on here are.

 

[1lessdog]

lol. Did you always take your ball home and play by yourself? I bet you’re a blast to work with or be around. Do you melt when you don’t get your way? Soft. By the way, you add nothing to this site.

Then you don't know Dave. He is one of the few that takes young and old sportsman Deer and Bear hunting no this sight. Not for the glory, as he never boasts about it and expects recognition.

Maybe you do the samething as Dave. I don't know your situation. But Dave has did a lot for this site.

 

[camper]

Then you don't know Dave. He is one of the few that takes young and old sportsman Deer and Bear hunting no this sight. Not for the glory, as he never boasts about it and expects recognition.

Maybe you do the samething as Dave. I don't know your situation. But Dave has did a lot for this site.

Like quieting those he disagrees with? Sounds like a great guy. Lol.

 

[labhunter66]

Like quieting those he disagrees with? Sounds like a great guy. Lol.

He does sound like a great guy. You, on the other hand, sound like an ass.

 

[Sluggo]

I’ve never understood why, if the majority of the state agree that teachers are under paid, they can’t be given a onetime “catch-up” raise of 20-30% or whatever it would take to get them up to speed. No raises for admins and non-teachers, just teachers.

 

[Perch_herder]

Just to add some broader context to these district numbers: state-level and district-level percentages don't always tell the whole story because every state sets its own bar for what 'proficient' means.

For instance, on its own state tests, North Dakota reports a statewide math proficiency of around 41%, while a state like Iowa reports a massive 75% proficiency.

However, when you put both states on the exact same scale using the NAEP (the Nation's Report Card, which acts as the equalizer since every student takes the same test), the reality flips. On that nationally normed test, North Dakota 8th graders rank #2 in the nation, while Iowa falls way behind at #15. Furthermore, analytical comparisons to international data place ND 8th graders in the top 10 globally if we competed as our own country.

It proves that a 41% in a state with rigorous standards means a lot more than a 75% where the bar is set low. It’s always worth doing a little deeper research and asking more questions before rushing to conclusions based on isolated data points.

 

[Davy Crockett]

If you don't like public or private school, home school plus some advanced extra curricular from outside sources is the way to go if you really want your kids to get what you think is a proper education.

 

[Obi-Wan]

And you believe he didn't pay in for 30 yrs and not entitled to a retirement or pension plan ?
Why are you going to be worthy of what you get when you retire?
If you had the education, you could probably be sitting in his seat.
I know a handful of retired teachers and believe they are compensated appropriately putting up with the BS they do.

Do you honestly believe he paid in enough to draw $120,000 a year pension ? Do you not feel a $120,000/yr pension is excessive? He was already making 214 % higher than the average teacher. that pension is on the backs of the taxpayers. Do any of the retired teachers you know draw $120,000 year pension?

 

[badlands13]

Do you honestly believe he paid in enough to draw $120,000 a year pension ? Do you not feel a $120,000/yr pension is excessive? He was already making 214 % higher than the average teacher. that pension is on the backs of the taxpayers. Do any of the retired teachers you know draw $120,000 year pension?

Superintendent and principal jobs are different than teachers. They are different skill sets so you can't really compare salaries.

 

[camper]

Do you honestly believe he paid in enough to draw $120,000 a year pension ? Do you not feel a $120,000/yr pension is excessive? He was already making 214 % higher than the average teacher. that pension is on the backs of the taxpayers. Do any of the retired teachers you know draw $120,000 year pension?

Next time you go to the doctor ask to see the facility maintenance guy instead so you can save some money since skill set means nothing to you.

 

[wslayer]

Do you honestly believe he paid in enough to draw $120,000 a year pension ? Do you not feel a $120,000/yr pension is excessive? He was already making 214 % higher than the average teacher. that pension is on the backs of the taxpayers. Do any of the retired teachers you know draw $120,000 year pension?

As @badlands13 stated, he was Superintendent of Public Schools. Night and day difference between that and a Teacher. If you feel it is inappropriate, go to the School Board and vent your frustration.

Oh and when you retire, we would like to know what you paid in and what you receive so us taxpayers know if we are getting hosed.

 

[VDAWG]

I taught for 13 years. There was so much about it that I enjoyed and education is something I'm still very passionate about. There's still a lot about it I miss. With that said, it's not a profession where majority of people would last even a week. Couple that with the fact there's no way you're making ends meet on the average teacher salary.

Let's address proficiency on standardized tests. A student's education is more than a test score. Some of the brightest most successful students I had didn't have the highest standardized test scores. But they were smart enough to go start their own business revolving around their passion and make more than I did as their teacher... Kids aren't the same as they were even 10 years ago. And we've gotten to a point where teachers have to wear many more hats than they used to. In many cases, teachers are also the support system for their students because kids aren't getting that support at home. Often times it's because mom and dad are working multiple jobs to make ends meet. It's a complex situation and teachers get thrown into the middle of it. But I guess all that matters is making sure a kid gets a high score on math....

As for administration pay... You couldn't pay me enough to take that job on. The pressure is unreal. Standardized tests. LOTS of behavior issues. Making the call to send buses when the weather is shit. Scheduling. Budgeting. Managing staff. Parents complaining and straight up bullying you when their kid is in the wrong... That's just scratching the surface... No thanks.

 

[Obi-Wan]

As @badlands13 stated, he was Superintendent of Public Schools. Night and day difference between that and a Teacher. If you feel it is inappropriate, go to the School Board and vent your frustration.

Oh and when you retire, we would like to know what you paid in and what you receive so us taxpayers know if we are getting hosed.

I work in the real world where pensions are very rare. My retirement income will cost the taxpayers ZERO, everything I will have for retirement is what I have invested myself along with what uncle sam forcefully took from me for their so call Social Security Ponzi scheme. If I would have been allowed to invest that amount I would be able to pull out 3 to 4 times what SS will be paying.