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What if he had said "I am refusing to stand for the anthem because I can't honor a government that treats its disabled veterans so poorly". Still want to string him up, cut off his balls, run him out of the country? If you can honestly say you are pissed solely because he refused to honor the flag and that his reason is totally irrelevant you have a better argument. But the minute we can punish for content of speech then we are no longer the home of the free - we are Russia, Iran, Iraq.

Those of you bringing up workplace scenarios are talking apples and oranges. Most private businesses have rules and regulations necessary for the business to run in an orderly manner. Here it is at least somewhat important that the NFL does not require players to stand for the anthem. Personally I wish they did have such a rule so they would have a valid reason to fire him.
 
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You don't stand to honor a govt.
 
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This is something that pisses me off to no end. It is about RESPECT. Plain and simple. Respect for those that gave us the right he exercises, those that fought and died for his right to be an asshole and those that will choose to sacrafice to protect that right in the future.

What ever one may personally think of this nation if you can not have respect for the symbol of those that gave and protect those rights you are an asshole.

At a Shrine circus I took some little kids to there were some young teenagers standing in front of us.

They were being little assholes but I said nothing. When the National Anthem started two of them had not taken off their hats.

I smacked them on the back of the head hard enough their hats came off and told them to shut up and honor our nations flag and those that protect and serve this nation.

One little asshole went and whined to a Shriner at the door near by. He came over and we had a short talk and the little assholes were escorted out.

Several adults around me thanked me.

Burning or disrespecting our flag even by just not standing at attention does not make you a protester, it makes you an asshole.


wouldve payed a c note to c that. I approve?!???? (Is this real?)

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Imagine you were a cop and imagine your experience in the field taught you what these stats indicate:
•There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.
•In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non­black to commit murder.

Wouldn't anyone eventually be conditioned to be more suspicious of a race that commits crime at a much higher rate than other races? People like Kaeper act like cops come out of the academy biased when in fact, I believe it is a bias that these race(s) have earned.
 


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What if he had said "I am refusing to stand for the anthem because I can't honor a government that treats its disabled veterans so poorly". Still want to string him up, cut off his balls, run him out of the country? If you can honestly say you are pissed solely because he refused to honor the flag and that his reason is totally irrelevant you have a better argument. But the minute we can punish for content of speech then we are no longer the home of the free - we are Russia, Iran, Iraq.Those of you bringing up workplace scenarios are talking apples and oranges. Most private businesses have rules and regulations necessary for the business to run in an orderly manner. Here it is at least somewhat important that the NFL does not require players to stand for the anthem. Personally I wish they did have such a rule so they would have a valid reason to fire him.
Not standing for the anthem to bring awareness to the treatment of disabled vets would be, in my opinion, a direct slap in the face of those very veterans you're trying to bring awareness to. To me the anthem is sacred and I think he used incredibly poor taste in using it as a way to garner attention. As a high-profile athlete he has so many other avenues that would be way more productive. Only thing he's accomplished is polarizing everybody. Is anybody really talking about and/or working on fixing the injustices because of his "brave" actions???? I sure don't think so.
 

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How many "African Americans " take in a non African and raise them to be high end earners making millions cause of that white kids privileged?

Racism is an African hate, way more than the other forced opinion.

But it's cool, cause I acted stupidly once when someone was breaking into my home, stealing my stuff, and was a minority. The right reaction was to try and give the criminal more of my earned stuff, and probably a thank you card.
 

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What if he had said "I am refusing to stand for the anthem because I can't honor a government that treats its disabled veterans so poorly". Still want to string him up, cut off his balls, run him out of the country? If you can honestly say you are pissed solely because he refused to honor the flag and that his reason is totally irrelevant you have a better argument. But the minute we can punish for content of speech then we are no longer the home of the free - we are Russia, Iran, Iraq.

Those of you bringing up workplace scenarios are talking apples and oranges. Most private businesses have rules and regulations necessary for the business to run in an orderly manner. Here it is at least somewhat important that the NFL does not require players to stand for the anthem. Personally I wish they did have such a rule so they would have a valid reason to fire him.


That would be true.

The fact this country give people chances IF they make the right choices belies his actual claim. There are any number of advantages people of color have avalible to them if they choose to accept them and better their standing. '

Now if he had said "I can not support the Democratic party becasue of their oppression of people of color" I would understand and agree.

But the simple fact is dishonoring this nations flag is NO way to make a protest of ANYTHING simply because that flag and those that died under it gives you that right TO protest.

So only an idiot will dishonor the flag of the nation that gives them the right to say stupid shit and make a fool of themselves.

That flag is the symbol of ones "right" to be an asshole if you wish so why dishonor that if you choose to be an asshole?

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I wonder if this asshole stopped to think how many people of color he has dishonored that died under that flag protecting his right to be an asshole.
 

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What if he had said "I am refusing to stand for the anthem because I can't honor a government that treats its disabled veterans so poorly". Still want to string him up, cut off his balls, run him out of the country? If you can honestly say you are pissed solely because he refused to honor the flag and that his reason is totally irrelevant you have a better argument. But the minute we can punish for content of speech then we are no longer the home of the free - we are Russia, Iran, Iraq.

Those of you bringing up workplace scenarios are talking apples and oranges. Most private businesses have rules and regulations necessary for the business to run in an orderly manner. Here it is at least somewhat important that the NFL does not require players to stand for the anthem. Personally I wish they did have such a rule so they would have a valid reason to fire him.

I don't get involved in posts like this often but when it has a personal tie to me I will. If you go read my post on the first page I state he definitely has the right to do. Apparently you and a few others need to read closer or learn English better, it is stated right in the post he has the right, but guys like you questioning my right to call him out and refuse to give anything to him or the 49er's in the future makes me wonder what guides you views. Only he has rights and not me???? Now for the veterans crap you are using, I am a veteran and would still call him an asswipe if that was his platform he was using as a lame excuse to act like a asswipe. I don't need a pile like him to fight my battles, we will figure a way to bring attention to the plight we fight without disrespecting what we fight for. There are many other options to bring attention to the cause he is pushing. How about he put his money where his mouth is and actually go out to oppressed areas and actually try to change the situation he is pushing, ohhhh wait the punk may have to leave his plush home and secure area to actually understand what is really happening in these areas, ask him if he has really ever spent time in the areas he is bitching about, I would be interested in that answer. If it was my parents or whoever I would bitch slap them if they acted like that and I was there, but I can guarantee you I will not have to worry about that, they raised me to understand and act in a way that would make them proud and I am proud to follow their lead.
So again just in case you missed it all three time stated so far by me, yes he has the right to do it, but I have every right to boycott and avoid anything at all that may benefit him and others that support him EX. the 49er's and such. Just ask the DIXIE CHICKS how the right works both ways, haven't heard much from them since the expressed there right so I guess actions have concurrences, we just don't know what they are until we exercise them. I guess when you suck you need to find a way to stay in the spotlight, good luck to him. The next month or so will judge his actions and will see how this works out for him.
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THIS is why you stand for the national anthem and honor our freedoms!
 


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The thing is that there is racism on both sides. There always has been and probably always will be to some degree. But if you look back at the history of our country I believe you'll find there is less with every generation and that's all we can do is to try to keep improving. Maybe if those who keep bitching about it would lead by example they might actually be able to improve things even more. Instead, I've always found those who are at the forefront (the Reverends, AIM leaders, and such) tend to be by far much more racists than any of us supposed white racists. The way I see it is when I can walk around in a totally black, Hispanic, Native American, or other supposed downtrodden people's neighborhoods and be treated as just another human instead of being harassed, beaten, or killed, then you have the right to preach to me about how I might not treat you properly in my neighborhood. And actually, the one thing I know for sure is that if one of these individuals were to be wandering around in my neighborhood they might look out of place to us and at most we'd ask them why they were there or maybe call the police to investigate. I don't think the same would happen in one of their neighborhoods. I also owe no one ANYTHING for the past, nor does anyone owe me anything because of what they might have done to my ancestors. We are all born with a blank slate. I wish I was born to a rich Saudi prince or a Bill Gates. I wasn't. I was born poor just like most people in this world. I got to where I am by working and studying hard. I could have sat on my ass having fun every night, skipped school to go get f'd up, and then blamed everyone else for my not being rich or privileged. I didn't. And it doesn't matter what color, race, or ethnicity you are. If you decide you want a better life and are willing to study and/or work hard for it, this country has millions of opportunities just waiting for you. But if you sit on your ass bitching about everyone else and how the "system" is against you, the only system that you have the right to blame is the one in your head.
 

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Not just Crapernick but all these athletes that like to make public statements on grand stages because they have the right to, fine with me. BUT I sure don't see or hear any/many of them taking any of their money and going to areas that could use funding to actually make a difference, struggling dilapidated schools, run down communities, hungry families, etc. Talk is cheap especially when it is on free TV air time so they can try to guilt trip people that make far less than they to do the donating.
Our fine military have fought and died just so we can hopefully have a better life and so that all these "Athletes" can be millionaire game players, yes I realize it isn't always easy for them, but when it comes to the question of should I buy a multimillion house, a new Bentley, a new Yacht or should I find a good cause or help a struggling school district to make life better for kids and families I am pretty sure I know what is on the bottom of the list.
And actually not just athletes but other rich pricks of other professions as well.
 

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What if he had said "I am refusing to stand for the anthem because I can't honor a government that treats its disabled veterans so poorly". Still want to string him up, cut off his balls, run him out of the country? If you can honestly say you are pissed solely because he refused to honor the flag and that his reason is totally irrelevant you have a better argument. But the minute we can punish for content of speech then we are no longer the home of the free - we are Russia, Iran, Iraq.

I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt but it looks like you're going to insist on riding the short bus all the way to the crash site.

I am a disabled vet and this has nothing to do with that or anything but his inability to stand during the National Anthem.

I stand by my offer to help him to his feet. I noticed you thought that was or would be assault, I'm good with going to jail for "assisting" him. I have no problem "putting my money where my mouth is" when it comes to doing what I think is right.

So, once again we're back to fuck him!
 

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You want the real reason the dumb ass did this, it sure ain't because of what he believes or thinks. Google his girlfriend, she's muslim and huge supporter of BLM. Guessin she had quite a bit to do with this shit. Screwed up watching tv for at least a week now as this is all they talk about. She accomplished her goal at his expense. Sounds like something her movement/religion is good at.

Pretty nice body on her though...

If he gets in a game again in his career, you can bet somebody will hit him hard enough for all of us.
 


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