Property Tax Credit

[Average_NDA_Member]

toss yer own garbage where you want and plow your own trails instead of depending on the govermint you buncha libs

 

[johnr]

toss yer own garbage where you want and plow your own trails instead of depending on the govermint you buncha libs

Gladly would do that, however I have zero choice. They take the cash from me whether I use their service or not, and don't do their end of the payment purpose. They are the buncha libs.

 

[CatDaddy]

https://www.valleynewslive.com/2025/01/08/lawmakers-anticipating-heavy-discussion-property-tax-plan/

 

[woodduck30]

Thoughts on the governors speech re prp tax

Sounded like blah, blah,blah...... telling the crack addicts to make changes

 

[camper]

Sounded like blah, blah,blah...... telling the crack addicts to make changes

Mr. Sunshine. You must be a joy to be around. Of course you’re well versed in blah,blah,blah.

 

[Trip McNeely]

Just watch when nothing is done….. they’ll have all sorts of excuses. This bill didnt do this or that plan doesn’t do that…… it’s setting up nicely for another kick the csn down the road sort of deal and we’ll be back here next year staring down higher property tax bills.

 

[bravo]

I have zero faith in our state’s best and brightest unless they are going to somehow benefit.

We can’t figure out budget cuts but by God we’ll make sure to mandate posting the 10 commandments in every school. That’ll fix everything.

 

[camper]

I have zero faith in our state’s best and brightest unless they are going to somehow benefit.

We can’t figure out budget cuts but by God we’ll make sure to mandate posting the 10 commandments in every school. That’ll fix everything.

Those are our state Republicans. I can’t wait for waldo or 3 roobster to chime in that they’re rhinos.

 

[woodduck30]

^^^^^blah, blah, blah

 

[camper]

^^^^^blah, blah, blah

See, I told you!!

 

[Zogman]

No one is pissed that their property is appreciating. We're pissed that some .gov tool gets to arbitrarily decide how much, and then slaps us with a tax on that unrealized gain.

Allen, please read this again! The gain will be realized when it is sold.

 

[Allen]

Allen, please read this again! The gain will be realized when it is sold.

That's not how the world works. It would create a HUGE disparity between what you pay for govt services compared to what your neighbor, who bought an adjoining property last year. You can't really think that's realistic, can you? Same neighborhood, same services, same value on the open market, and you would pay 1/XXth of what your neighbor pays.

 

[Wirehair]

Last fall, prior to election, I contacted the state tax department to request information as to the value of property that is currently exempt from property tax in ND. I was told that they do not keep track of that information as counties are not required to report the data. I then contacted Burleigh County asking if the value of tax exempt property was tracked and their answer was No! Not sure how our state legislature can have a meaningful discussion / debate relating to property tax reform if they do not know the value that is currently exempt from property tax. Throwing more $$ at the problem and suggesting property tax may be eliminated in 10-12 years is not my definition of reform. It appears that the corp welfare will continue directly as well as through the Commerce Department money laundering scheme and no meaningful REFORM will occur. I challenge our current legislature to prove me wrong.

 

[Obi-Wan]

That's not how the world works. It would create a HUGE disparity between what you pay for govt services compared to what your neighbor, who bought an adjoining property last year. You can't really think that's realistic, can you? Same neighborhood, same services, same value on the open market, and you would pay 1/XXth of what your neighbor pays.

If you think every home on the same block has the same value you must be smoking crack. That would be like me saying every 2020 F 250 crew cab short box has the exact same value, it has the exact same sqft dimension and the options, mileage, condition doesn't matter, that is the formula they use to place valuations on homes that they have never been in. Do you complain about the HUGE disparity of fuel tax? One truck gets 10 mpg the other gets 15 mpg. they both drive 1000 miles on the same road but one will pay 50% more fuel tax for the same use of the same road - services .

 

[Allen]

If you think every home on the same block has the same value you must be smoking crack. That would be like me saying every 2020 F 250 crew cab short box has the exact same value, it has the exact same sqft dimension and the options, mileage, condition doesn't matter, that is the formula they use to place valuations on homes that they have never been in. Do you complain about the HUGE disparity of fuel tax? One truck gets 10 mpg the other gets 15 mpg. they both drive 1000 miles on the same road but one will pay 50% more fuel tax for the same use of the same road - services .

I get that it would be exceedingly unusual for two adjacent properties to have the exact same value, but what kind of crack are you smoking if you think the cost of services provided haven't gone up in the XX years you own a piece of property? To deny inflation is some kind of Disney fantasy.

So, I've owned my current place for 13 years. I should expect that I only have to pay 2012 level of costs for the services provided?

Again, that's not how life and the world around us works.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I get that it would be exceedingly unusual for two adjacent properties to have the exact same value, but what kind of crack are you smoking if you think the cost of services provided haven't gone up in the XX years you own a piece of property? To deny inflation is some kind of Disney fantasy.

So, I've owned my current place for 13 years. I should expect that I only have to pay 2012 level of costs for the services provided?

Again, that's not how life and the world around us works.

You are the one that said “ same value “ not me. Inflation has not risen 10 to 15 percent year after year as the assessed property taxes have. With the government knowing they are going to get a 10 to 15 percent increase in their coffers gives them zero incentive to cut spending. Set taxes based on inflation like they do with SS not just a free for all at the whim of the assessor. your opinion is based on you making your living suckling at the taxpayer teet.

 

[Allen]

You are the one that said “ same value “ not me. Inflation has not risen 10 to 15 percent year after year as the assessed property taxes have. With the government knowing they are going to get a 10 to 15 percent increase in their coffers gives them zero incentive to cut spending. Set taxes based on inflation like they do with SS not just a free for all at the whim of the assessor. your opinion is based on you making your living suckling at the taxpayer teet.

The original reply you butted in on was to Zogman's post. You want to bring into the discussion the amount of inflation, fine...that is a different topic. I am not necessarily opposed to limits on property tax rate hikes.

My opinion is based on the reality of inflation. Apparently, I have teenagers that understand inflation better than you.