While I was a member of FB since the begining, and spent a lot of time on there, I missed a lot of the chaos at the end. By end I mean when everyone ditched it for this site. What was funny though, as Vollmer started this site, they let him advertise it over there. There were links and everything, and they did nothing about it, at first. Then as everyone, and I mean almost everyone, left that site and came here, your couldn't hardly mention this site without getting the ban hammer dropped on you. No mod over there ever stated WHY they banned Vollmer. They just said it was obvious. He broke no rules over there whatsoever! He even said they could delete his thread right away when he first advertised his site, and said he didn't want to break any of their rules. They didn't think a start up site could take all their traffic away, but they were WRONG, in so many ways.