NDA Ammo and Reloading Component TRADE thread

[PrairieGhost]

I’ve killed more deer with that pill than all others combined

Really???? I killed more deer before they were even invented. Years ago it was plain Jane cup and core. They worked great until outdoor writers started talking about bullet failure. Deer dropped dead, but the bullet failed??? Don't get me wrong I use all the new fangled bullets too, but are they really worth three times as much? Maybe, I'm just contemplating. I guess I have a foot in both worlds. The highest ballistic coefficient I can find for deer and coyote rifle hunting. and home cast heavy flat nose for handgun and old rifles. Hmmm good to have so many choices.

 

[Wall-eyes]

Good think I stocked up on reloading shit many moons ago, Christ I could retire if I sold it all know.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Coveted items….

Hornady bullets suck, got any Sierra?

 

[Jiffy]

Hornady bullets suck, got any Sierra?

Yes..

Also not for sale.

 

[ORCUS DEMENS]

Saw there was an explosion at Hornady plant today. One death several injured.

 

[LBrandt]

Wife asked me long ago why I needed so much ammo and my answer was its my 401k. How did I know it was going to come true. LB

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Didn't buy into doing the hording thing, now I'm kicking myself a little. Just stupid how things have changed for a little hobby of mine that I enjoyed doing instead of sitting in front of a TV screen rotting my brain

 

[FightingSioux]

Wife asked me long ago why I needed so much ammo and my answer was its my 401k. How did I know it was going to come true. LB

If you had stocked up on primers you would be even more rich

 

[FightingSioux]

Dear Customers of KIR Ammo,



Several events over the past week have contributed to a significantly tumultuous time in the ammo industry. I will address these as succinctly and objectively as possible to give you information you can use and share to make informed decisions about ammo purchases in the coming months.



The Lake City Army Ammunition Plant is the single largest producer of rifle ammunition for the U.S. military and is operated by Winchester-Olin. Winchester holds the contract to run the plant and is thereby granted permission to sell some of the ammo that is produced there - this includes 5.56x45mm M193 and M855, the most popular rifle cartridges in America. On Thursday last week, we were informed that demand from the military has overridden all existing commercial orders and that Lake City has temporarily suspended all production for the civilian market. When will this end? We do not know, but an educated guess might be a few weeks to a couple months - however I could be wrong; we can’t tell with certainty. This move has already tightened supply and demand has soared for many popular calibers including, but not limited to: 5.56x45mm NATO, .223 Rem, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, and .308 Win. We have secured a temporary supply of 5.56 FMJ which will be arriving throughout this coming week, but we do not know how long it will be available on the open market. I will share more information as I learn it.



On Friday morning (10/13), Hornady experienced a fatal explosion at one of its manufacturing plants in Wood River, NE. Sadly, one woman died and the cause of the explosion has not been determined. Reports state the explosion occurred at a chemical compound building which we can safely assume manufactures and stores powder and/or coatings for Hornady ammo. Hornady has been tight lipped about what happened (rightfully so after such a tragic event) and we do not know how this will affect production, but it would make sense that this will tighten supply on Hornady products. Which specific products, we cannot say; it may be all of them, or just a subset (think Superformance hunting rounds vs. Frontier that use different powders).



The recent conflict in the Middle East has further tightened supply on ammunition and firearms from IWI (Israel Military Industries). These include their popular Razor Core line of 5.56 and various firearms. Mass shipments of ammunition are confirmed to have been delivered from the U.S. to meet demand. This ties in to the Lake City’s restriction on commercial sales. The continuing conflict in Ukraine has tightened supply around .338 Lapua Mag, 7.62x39mm, 5.45x39mm, 5.56x45mm, and other popular calibers. I do not anticipate Covid-type levels of inflation, but with all of these factors combined, we are inching in that direction.



KIR Ammo is the #1 distributor of Norma Ammunition products in the State of Texas, so we keep in close communication with their U.S. HQ in Savannah, GA. As of Thursday last week, Norma is completely sold out of all major FMJ calibers mentioned above. They are not sure when the next run of 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 9mm will happen, but they are completely out of that ammo for now. We we able to secure (only!) two pallets of 5.56x45mm which will be delivered sometime in the next week or two. This gives you an idea on how strong demand has gotten in a very short period of time. Norma is not the only manufacturer affected by this supply constriction.



Black Hills Ammunition, famed manufacturer of the 5.56x45mm MK262 MOD 1-C cartridge, will likely halt commercial sales of that particular variation as well. They did not make any formal announcements, but it is a safe guess that we won’t be seeing that round available for some time. We were lucky enough to receive half a pallet early last week before the preceding events transpired.

Here at KIR Ammo, we are experiencing record levels of demand and will continue to ship all of your orders in a timely manner without sacrificing service and quality. We always try our best to get back to each and every one of you when you have questions, but please bear with us as right now we are “all hands on deck” in the warehouse, printing, picking, packing, and shipping!



Thank you from myself and the team here at KIR for your continued support of our family-owned business.



Respectfully,



V. Campbell

 

[luvcatchingbass]

Dear Customers of KIR Ammo,



Several events over the past week have contributed to a significantly tumultuous time in the ammo industry. I will address these as succinctly and objectively as possible to give you information you can use and share to make informed decisions about ammo purchases in the coming months.



The Lake City Army Ammunition Plant is the single largest producer of rifle ammunition for the U.S. military and is operated by Winchester-Olin. Winchester holds the contract to run the plant and is thereby granted permission to sell some of the ammo that is produced there - this includes 5.56x45mm M193 and M855, the most popular rifle cartridges in America. On Thursday last week, we were informed that demand from the military has overridden all existing commercial orders and that Lake City has temporarily suspended all production for the civilian market. When will this end? We do not know, but an educated guess might be a few weeks to a couple months - however I could be wrong; we can’t tell with certainty. This move has already tightened supply and demand has soared for many popular calibers including, but not limited to: 5.56x45mm NATO, .223 Rem, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, and .308 Win. We have secured a temporary supply of 5.56 FMJ which will be arriving throughout this coming week, but we do not know how long it will be available on the open market. I will share more information as I learn it.



On Friday morning (10/13), Hornady experienced a fatal explosion at one of its manufacturing plants in Wood River, NE. Sadly, one woman died and the cause of the explosion has not been determined. Reports state the explosion occurred at a chemical compound building which we can safely assume manufactures and stores powder and/or coatings for Hornady ammo. Hornady has been tight lipped about what happened (rightfully so after such a tragic event) and we do not know how this will affect production, but it would make sense that this will tighten supply on Hornady products. Which specific products, we cannot say; it may be all of them, or just a subset (think Superformance hunting rounds vs. Frontier that use different powders).



The recent conflict in the Middle East has further tightened supply on ammunition and firearms from IWI (Israel Military Industries). These include their popular Razor Core line of 5.56 and various firearms. Mass shipments of ammunition are confirmed to have been delivered from the U.S. to meet demand. This ties in to the Lake City’s restriction on commercial sales. The continuing conflict in Ukraine has tightened supply around .338 Lapua Mag, 7.62x39mm, 5.45x39mm, 5.56x45mm, and other popular calibers. I do not anticipate Covid-type levels of inflation, but with all of these factors combined, we are inching in that direction.



KIR Ammo is the #1 distributor of Norma Ammunition products in the State of Texas, so we keep in close communication with their U.S. HQ in Savannah, GA. As of Thursday last week, Norma is completely sold out of all major FMJ calibers mentioned above. They are not sure when the next run of 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 9mm will happen, but they are completely out of that ammo for now. We we able to secure (only!) two pallets of 5.56x45mm which will be delivered sometime in the next week or two. This gives you an idea on how strong demand has gotten in a very short period of time. Norma is not the only manufacturer affected by this supply constriction.



Black Hills Ammunition, famed manufacturer of the 5.56x45mm MK262 MOD 1-C cartridge, will likely halt commercial sales of that particular variation as well. They did not make any formal announcements, but it is a safe guess that we won’t be seeing that round available for some time. We were lucky enough to receive half a pallet early last week before the preceding events transpired.

Here at KIR Ammo, we are experiencing record levels of demand and will continue to ship all of your orders in a timely manner without sacrificing service and quality. We always try our best to get back to each and every one of you when you have questions, but please bear with us as right now we are “all hands on deck” in the warehouse, printing, picking, packing, and shipping!



Thank you from myself and the team here at KIR for your continued support of our family-owned business.



Respectfully,



V. Campbell

Well then that is outstanding news (sarcasm obviously)
Thank you for sharing

 

[SupressYourself]

I was at Scheels this afternoon and there was no large rifle primers at all.

This was Tuesday evening last week (10/10). Sounds like they were all gone by Friday (or earlier).

Yesterday (10/18) morning they had several bricks Winchester Large Rifle. First I've seen those in years and I'm running low, so I bought one brick even though the price was ridiculous ($130). They do have 15% off all primers, powder, and bullets right now, so that helps.

 

[FightingSioux]

This was Tuesday evening last week (10/10). Sounds like they were all gone by Friday (or earlier).

Yesterday (10/18) morning they had several bricks Winchester Large Rifle. First I've seen those in years and I'm running low, so I bought one brick even though the price was ridiculous ($130). They do have 15% off all primers, powder, and bullets right now, so that helps.

The part of the hornady plant that exploded was the primer production. Never seen them sell primers so they might now have to get them from other manufacturers if they can’t start up right away. Primer shortages might last even longer

 

[FightingSioux]

This was Tuesday evening last week (10/10). Sounds like they were all gone by Friday (or earlier).

Yesterday (10/18) morning they had several bricks Winchester Large Rifle. First I've seen those in years and I'm running low, so I bought one brick even though the price was ridiculous ($130). They do have 15% off all primers, powder, and bullets right now, so that helps.

Those are not too bad of prices. $189 for BR-2 and $100 for LRP here locally, $130 for LRMag Primers the last time I saw them. Saw some Winchester LRP in MN for $80 a brick knee I should’ve bought some.

 

[jdinny]

Hornady bullets suck, got any Sierra?

I got some Sierra .284 I belive 175gr match kings I would part with . Maybe 95 is so I test drove those against my 175 berger for kicks and didn’t care for them accuracy wise but I didn’t give them much of a chance either

 

[Wall-eyes]

Guy on bis man wants $35 for 100 for fed 215 gold metal wow

 

[LBrandt]

Have 10 boxes of different types of primers. some 6mm 243 full metal jacket and some22 cal hollow point. A couple of ice cream pails of once shot 300 mag, 308, 270, 22-250 and may-be a few 243 brass. a couple bibles on reloading. and a pile of other stuff like dies, tumbler, pacific press, powder measure, hand primer and more. Next rainy day I will make a list and post. All to go for one price. LB

 

[gunlover]

I have 500 CCI 200 primers I will sell 5packs . i live in Washburn ND.

 

[luvcatchingbass]

This was Tuesday evening last week (10/10). Sounds like they were all gone by Friday (or earlier).

Yesterday (10/18) morning they had several bricks Winchester Large Rifle. First I've seen those in years and I'm running low, so I bought one brick even though the price was ridiculous ($130). They do have 15% off all primers, powder, and bullets right now, so that helps.

Yeah I ran over there either Thursday or Friday and there was nothing left in your picture. This is getting just stupid for finding simple things. 2-3 cards of LR and LRM and I would be set.

 

[FightingSioux]

Well the .223 ammo is starting to get low around these parts. Haven’t been into the store in the last 3 weeks and the difference is stark. Who knew there would be another shortage. Even 9mm is getting low too.

Is everyone else seeing the same thing?

 

[Jiffy]

https://www.ammoman.com/