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snow1

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Give me a break. A 97 cummins with a 5 speed was rated at a whopping 440 ft lbs of torque. Most of the new gas pickups, regardless of make, could probably out pull it. The new diesels have around 1000 ft lbs of torque, regardless of make.

Kind of off topic, and I just thought that was a funny post.:;:stirthepot


97 cummins was the only thing good about that truck,still is.

GM's current 6.6 turbo duramax is 445 hp with 910 torq,Gm gas 6.6 direct injection 401hp and 464torq ...

I'm eye balling the chevy 1500 crew with duramax 3.0lit diesel,277hp with 460lbs/torq,trailering specs up to 9000lbs but why would ya,tail be wagging the dog,empty 40+mpgs which it would be 80% of the time or more.

wj,we already have $100k GM trucks,priced out a 3500 high country pkg diesel crew for $106k (2021) crazy....GM dealer north of the cities advertised a 2021 suburban loaded LTZ for $90k $20k over sticker.
 
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I'll never buy new again, you lose $10k or more just driving it off the lot. Let someone else take that hit and pay cash for quality used and you'll be way ahead.[/QUOTE]

If you can find quality used. Seems like no one takes care of vehicles anymore, especially if it's coming off a lease or from someone who trades every few years they have no incentive to take care of it[/QUOTE]

That's one of my pet peeves. My vehicles look new, but I get the same trade in as they guy who abuses their vehicles. Mine never spend more than a couple of days on the lot. One of the salesmen bought my Buick that I traded in 2019. Right now I can get $20k for a travel trailer I am selling. Nothing for the $960 tow hitch installed by a certified welder, nothing for the $1000 solar set up, nothing for the new couch, nothing for the new $462 underbelly on the tongue to hold and protect up to four batteries, nothing for the new tires etc etc. The cheap ass dealer isn't getting his mitts on it I am selling it.
 

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I'll never buy new again, you lose $10k or more just driving it off the lot. Let someone else take that hit and pay cash for quality used and you'll be way ahead.

If you can find quality used. Seems like no one takes care of vehicles anymore, especially if it's coming off a lease or from someone who trades every few years they have no incentive to take care of it[/QUOTE]

That's one of my pet peeves. My vehicles look new, but I get the same trade in as they guy who abuses their vehicles. Mine never spend more than a couple of days on the lot. One of the salesmen bought my Buick that I traded in 2019. Right now I can get $20k for a travel trailer I am selling. Nothing for the $960 tow hitch installed by a certified welder, nothing for the $1000 solar set up, nothing for the new couch, nothing for the new $462 underbelly on the tongue to hold and protect up to four batteries, nothing for the new tires etc etc. The cheap ass dealer isn't getting his mitts on it I am selling it.[/QUOTE]

Unless you get $10k off of a new one. The more miles on a used one is less miles for me to drive before the miles rack up. The price for used trucks even before this chip shortage was outrageous so why run the risk of running out of warranty sooner just to save a few bucks? If I drove a Chevy I can see why people trade them in every few years……..
 

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I swore I would never buy new, but got a great deal on the first one and it carried over when I traded for another new one. F150. I drove my last one a few years after paying it off, this one will be paid off in a year, a 2018 and I only have 19,000 on it. Never had a repair bill out of warranty, so I'm going on something like 8 years without ever having a repair bill.
 


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Americans can’t make chips?? That seems like a problem Trump coulda solved in a week. Crazy how you don’t hear a peep about inflation and product shortages, from foods to vehicles and everything in between. Not a peep from the MSM.
 

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Americans can’t make chips?? That seems like a problem Trump coulda solved in a week. Crazy how you don’t hear a peep about inflation and product shortages, from foods to vehicles and everything in between. Not a peep from the MSM.

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Also now you know why the democraps are pushing for green energy which includes electric transportation, Afghanistan has the biggest untapped lithium deposits in the world and China ����is right next door.
 


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