SB 2315 - In Cmte 3/14 - ACTION REQUIRED!

[Brian Renville]

would appear it's all out war now.

How many of us aren't suprised? :;:smokin

Anyone still think ND isn't going to statewide sanctioned pay to hunt? I can see guys now chasing animals to keep them on their property just like the elk herds here in MT.

 

[njsimonson]

We will be awaiting the final amended version out of committee today. As I understand it, there are THREE sets of amendments and again, this is just generally speaking, I've seen NONE of these and only been told that is what's up for consideration in today's committee:

1) Everything's posted (original version from waaay back in January - it's been a long session, hasn't it!?)
2) Database where everything starts as posted (basically the same as above, only more confusing and expensive)
3) Database where everything starts as unposted (just confusing and expensive, with no deterrence to criminals)

We should have something by 5:00 pm, unless they go late, suspend the rules, etc.

All of the above - no matter which ones come out - are not the right answer. They don't prevent trespass, but by now we all know that was not the true goal here. The goal was to remove the posting requirement because a vocal few who own thousands of acres thought it too time consuming/expensive to post any more - and believe me, there are other options we can use to appease those few. The secondary goal of the special interests seemed to be to paint sportsmen as the villains, when in reality a few dozen criminals were the real issue.

You've all done a great job at representing your views, and those of sportsmen in general. In the coming days, you'll need to do it again. Things aren't solid in the house and this bill can still be defeated. Those I've talked to say, despite the special interests and sponsors dumping THOUSANDS of dollars on multiple dedicated lobbyists, this bill in any form will be a toss-up. Time to put our collective thumbs on the scale once again - BE HEARD, CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS, tell your Representatives to VOTE NO on SB 2315, because in any form, it's bad for public access, hunting and fishing in ND!

https://www.legis.nd.gov/contact-my-legislators

 

[Kentucky Windage]

The red light, green light is a disaster!!! ND sucks at technology. That’s like asking my 91 year old grandpa a question about Microsoft excel.

 

[eyexer]

like nj posted above it's all about having to post signs. over the years farmers/ranchers are getting bigger and bigger. small guys retiring and/or being pushed out. So the big operations don't want to have to post. I can understand their reasoning but this isn't the way to solve it. This is the way to drive one hell of a wedge between you and those who subsidize your way of life.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

Posting land is not hard to do. Farmers and ranchers drive around ALL THE TIME.

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I’m going to keep posting this: if private land is private, so be it. ALL public land becomes off limits to the private sector. This thing is way too one sided. The legislature needs to throw the general public a bone.

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It’s not enough to say “we want a no vote.” If it becomes a yes vote, the general public is screwed. Amendments need to be made separate from the private land itself. The public needs to receive something from the legislature.

 

[ndlongshot]

Posting land is not hard to do. Farmers and ranchers drive around ALL THE TIME.

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I’m going to keep posting this: if private land is private, so be it. ALL public land becomes off limits to the private sector. This thing is way too one sided. The legislature needs to throw the general public a bone.

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It’s not enough to say “we want a no vote.” If it becomes a yes vote, the general public is screwed. Amendments need to be made separate from the private land itself. The public needs to receive something from the legislature.

Agreed. There needs to be some repercussions if this goes down. Need to start taking care of ourselves in all of this. Its give and take, not just give, give, give.

More public lands, more habitat, and more funding for both.

 

[Huntin1]

Apparently our legislature along with some farmers and ranchers in this state want hunting to stop, that is in effect what this law will do in time. Maybe not right away, but eventually, as people get tired of putting up the shit show that this will create, they'll just quit going.

 

[Crankn]

Once again not all farmers and ranchers want this bill! I am a farmer and landowner and I am against this bill, Been texting and emailing my rep.s constantly to vote NO!

 

[fireone]

Once again not all farmers and ranchers want this bill! I am a farmer and landowner and I am against this bill, Been texting and emailing my rep.s constantly to vote NO!

I have coffee with a bunch of farmers every morning and most of my relatives are/were farmers. Haven't heard one of them back this anti-public hunting bill. It is a small percentage pushing it from ND Stockmen and Farm Bureau. I know some of the past officers from the Corn Growers and the Soybean Growers, they say it's a dumb bill, bad public relations. But the squeaking wheel gets a bill in the legislature.

 

[cpete00]

I tried to warn people about Cindy Beck years ago when she was first running. But she had that coveted "R", so that's all that mattered. She has always been and will always be shady.

 

[ndlongshot]

Once again not all farmers and ranchers want this bill! I am a farmer and landowner and I am against this bill, Been texting and emailing my rep.s constantly to vote NO!

Thank you crankn. I think most realize its a minority pushing this.

 

[eyexer]

well if the legislature passes this they damn well better immediately come up with some way to fund G&F. Then some way to fund depredation on hay and come up with some way to control yotes. I think sportsmen will tell em to fuck off when it comes to controlling deer and yotes.

 

[Ruttin]

Eye,

They'll just send in the state trappers and federal boys with the choppers to curb that problem... eliminate the need for hunting once and for all

 

[pointer]

Well let's see, I think the combo tag is 52 bucks times that by how many thousand, then the thirty for a deer tag and on and on with the tax on sporting equipment, if you are the CEO of Dicks losing this money is nothing, makes them feel good. Reality is however a lost art form, the G&F will just shoot more deer to check to see the status of CWD. Stupid people with power hungry issues will still be elected, and I will wait to see if this bullshit passes before I buy any licence, it will eliminate the way I hunt, and will eliminate some of the access to shore fishing my favorite spots. My rant is what will this solve, not a damn thing

 

[Kentucky Windage]

Cynthia definitely asks to speak to the manager

Has hyphenated last name. Hates hunters.

 

[Bkrenz]

If I was a hunter with out land I would be a yes on this bill. Then do my home work and find a place to hunt. It will cut down on your competition. I have 9500 acres and put one sign back up 6 times last year. Funny thing is. After deer season the sign always stayed on the post? I guess I don’t care either way on this bill I just ordered hard steel signs and that should the driving all over every year to post.

 

[1bigfokker]

Put the signs on with 3" lag bolts. Found out that those assholes don't carry tools and the signs can't be ripped off.

 

[Meelosh]

That’s a short sighted way of looking at things. Less hunters is not a good thing.

 

[Riggen&Jiggen]

Unless I have not heard where are the state and national conservation and Hunter organizations? Once the hunters are gone where are they going to get their funding?

 

[Kentucky Windage]

If I was a hunter with out land I would be a yes on this bill. Then do my home work and find a place to hunt. It will cut down on your competition. I have 9500 acres and put one sign back up 6 times last year. Funny thing is. After deer season the sign always stayed on the post? I guess I don’t care either way on this bill I just ordered hard steel signs and that should the driving all over every year to post.

My guess is the person doing it is still going to shoot stuff on your land when you’re not around. That what this bill doesn’t stop. Doesn’t stop people from breaking the law. We already have a law in place that makes that activity illegal.