Property Tax Petition

Are you in favor of eliminating property taxes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 107 73.8%
  • No

    Votes: 38 26.2%

  • Total voters
    145

Tinesdown

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Have read alot felles the property tax is is way to much imo they tax u on the size of a dwelling its not right. Have a home in williston nd and its 35 bills tax fuck me bad brother. Lets stop caring about paying gnf robbers 38 bones for a duck stamp when does this shit stop.
 


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I don't understand how they can't write a property tax measure that is only for your primary residence as a ND resident. According to people I have talked to they feel it won't get support, however it seems to solve a lot of the issues the no voters have.
I proposed a primary residence cut of all property tax, however If it is a second home or vacation home it will be taxed at the current mil system. If your primary dwelling is also used as a daycare or some other business that is run from that residence, that you profit off it will get taxed. If your land is being rented/leased or used for agriculture it will get taxed. However if you have land and use it as a hobby farm where you have a couple livestock for your personal use, and you are not realizing any notable income from them, any crops, rent, or hunting lease. That property, if it also houses a primary dwelling will be property tax free.
If you are a farmer or rancher your house/farm/ranch headquarters will be property tax free but your land that is being used to make income will be taxed at the current rate.
Basically if you make money off of the property in question or it is a vacation/second/rental property it gets taxed.
I was told that this wouldn't get the backing of small business, farmers, ranchers, as well as the big business money that would run it into the dirt for the fear of having to pick up the tab for the loss of revenue from personal primary dwellings. Personally i think it would be great, it would still tax large ag, big business, as well as out of state interest in our state. Also it would give you the chance to outright own your actual primary residence, also it would have to have a section to disallow foreclosure from specials and merely put a lien on said property if delinquent.
 

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Thats exactly what I’m saying. We waste a lot of money and peoples time teaching our kids useless bullshit. Gender fluid studies and calculus 7. It’s all bullshit. It wastes their time by not preparing them for the real world and it wastes our time in increased costs and taxes. We’re paying more and getting less like everything else in this goddamn world. Let’s get back to teaching kids what they really need to know to thrive in society and those who are more gifted and talented can continue with advanced classes. This “no child left behind” bullshit is leaving all our kids behind when it comes to being ready for adult society.

That "No child left behind" is Bullshit! To me its like no child gets ahead.
 

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When I was in high school there was consumer's math. Common sense shit like how much money your job paid /month, what each utility cost (set amount) / month, grocery (set amount) /month, and what you would have to have at (ex.) 4% interest for a loan to purchase a vehicle. Figure it out or you were going in the hole. I'd guess half the kids in school couldn't even figure that out.
 

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Thats exactly what I’m saying. We waste a lot of money and peoples time teaching our kids useless bullshit. Gender fluid studies and calculus 7. It’s all bullshit. It wastes their time by not preparing them for the real world and it wastes our time in increased costs and taxes. We’re paying more and getting less like everything else in this goddamn world. Let’s get back to teaching kids what they really need to know to thrive in society and those who are more gifted and talented can continue with advanced classes. This “no child left behind” bullshit is leaving all our kids behind when it comes to being ready for adult society.
Around middle school they should be given 3 or so carreer choices and start focusing on those and the basics. When I was in college I took western civ....yes it was elective..but chose based off the other ones being just as dumb...now I can 100% guarantee I will absolutely use 0% of what was taught in western civ... all levels of education need to be geared towards a students interest/career path.
 


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When I was in high school there was consumer's math. Common sense shit like how much money your job paid /month, what each utility cost (set amount) / month, grocery (set amount) /month, and what you would have to have at (ex.) 4% interest for a loan to purchase a vehicle. Figure it out or you were going in the hole. I'd guess half the kids in school couldn't even figure that out.
We were offered business math in school. I felt that was way more geared to real life then the other maths. My kids had some goofy math in elementary called the spider method(don't ask). Anyways this was the most inefficient way to solve a math problem I have ever seen. Showed a fellow engineer buddy of mine. He couldn't believe they would teach our kids the most inefficient way to solve a problem..it in fact goes against engineering as being the most efficient way. He was shocked..I was pissed..school said this is the new normal..keep voting baesler in. Pretty sure she wasted millions of ND money on it.
 

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I don't understand how they can't write a property tax measure that is only for your primary residence as a ND resident. According to people I have talked to they feel it won't get support, however it seems to solve a lot of the issues the no voters have.
I proposed a primary residence cut of all property tax, however If it is a second home or vacation home it will be taxed at the current mil system. If your primary dwelling is also used as a daycare or some other business that is run from that residence, that you profit off it will get taxed. If your land is being rented/leased or used for agriculture it will get taxed. However if you have land and use it as a hobby farm where you have a couple livestock for your personal use, and you are not realizing any notable income from them, any crops, rent, or hunting lease. That property, if it also houses a primary dwelling will be property tax free.
If you are a farmer or rancher your house/farm/ranch headquarters will be property tax free but your land that is being used to make income will be taxed at the current rate.
Basically if you make money off of the property in question or it is a vacation/second/rental property it gets taxed.
I was told that this wouldn't get the backing of small business, farmers, ranchers, as well as the big business money that would run it into the dirt for the fear of having to pick up the tab for the loss of revenue from personal primary dwellings. Personally i think it would be great, it would still tax large ag, big business, as well as out of state interest in our state. Also it would give you the chance to outright own your actual primary residence, also it would have to have a section to disallow foreclosure from specials and merely put a lien on said property if delinquent.
To answer your first question..well maybe anyways. I believe the legislature can add to this after it's passed. Might be harder to do it but I don't believe it's impossible. My opinion..vote for it and request changes as it goes. What we have now is way worse..you have zero control over your own property...this is not called freedom.
 

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