class b state tourney

[YATYAS]

Every year this same bullshit comes at this time.... I grew up with and played ball with the coach of Our Redeemers.... From 5th grade on we played school ball and then when that was done it was time for the traveling season.... we played dozens of tournaments from 5th grade all the way through our senior year. I started 3 years on the varsity team along side Mr. Feller. Let me tell you what, when it comes to work ethic, there is none better than his. I still keep in touch with Jeremy and I know for a fact that those boys that he coaches and their parents put in countless hours going to camps, traveling tournaments, open gyms etc....

For all you crybaby bitches crying about needing a three class system let me ask you this? Are you willing to put in the time and effort like the parents and coaches for Our Redeemers does? Are you willing to drive all over the state every weekend throughout the summer so that your kids and their teammates can better themselves as a team? If not then sit down and shut up... If so then step up and coach a traveling team for your children and see where it gets you....

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So does this mean that when I went to school in Surrey and we had 5 guys that were 6'4 or taller on our team that we recruited too? I mean hell if they recruited us it was when we were all in preschool....

You make a great argument for a single class system. By your logic ORCS is on the same playing field as Minot High. You over simplify the situation. Location, location, location. Rural ND is getting smaller. Metro areas are growing. A high school with 100 kids can compete against against 400 more consistently than a high school with 50 kids against 100. A lack of a 3 class system has lead to all these coops which take away from that small town pride. I don't make the argument that private schools recruit but do think being located in a metro area is not B.

 

[johnr]

I think it all comes down to the recruiting

 

[5575]

Ever notice how Fred Fridley sounds just like John Hoven when he's doing the commentary of the games? :;:muahaha

I also notice that when they are doing the play by play its always Shiloh this Trinity that but if its Kenmare well.. they say Kenmare.
You never hear them say Dickinson, Minot, Bismarck, Fargo, guess they just like to water it down a little.

Go Four winds!!

 

[twobs]

I'm a Region 6 guy, grew up playing in this tough region every team always goes in spurts....it's all about the kids at the time if the buy into winning or not.....it's not about size or private all the time....I remember when Our Redeemers struggled for years to even make regionals and now the kids bought in and put the time in effort they are labeled bad guys.....Berthold smaller school in the state but those kids put time in the gym....Nedrose and South Prairie are fielding new programs with freshmen and sophmores but in a couple years after playing and getting beat by 30-40 points every night they will get better and start winning games...do they then become the bad guys after having to take their lickens?

 

[gst]

Every year this same bullshit comes at this time.... I grew up with and played ball with the coach of Our Redeemers.... From 5th grade on we played school ball and then when that was done it was time for the traveling season.... we played dozens of tournaments from 5th grade all the way through our senior year. I started 3 years on the varsity team along side Mr. Feller. Let me tell you what, when it comes to work ethic, there is none better than his. I still keep in touch with Jeremy and I know for a fact that those boys that he coaches and their parents put in countless hours going to camps, traveling tournaments, open gyms etc....

For all you crybaby bitches crying about needing a three class system let me ask you this? Are you willing to put in the time and effort like the parents and coaches for Our Redeemers does? Are you willing to drive all over the state every weekend throughout the summer so that your kids and their teammates can better themselves as a team? If not then sit down and shut up... If so then step up and coach a traveling team for your children and see where it gets you....

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So does this mean that when I went to school in Surrey and we had 5 guys that were 6'4 or taller on our team that we recruited too? I mean hell if they recruited us it was when we were all in preschool....

There is no doubt Coach Feller is a good coach, have watched a few of their games and he does a nice job and you can see the kids he has have been taught fundamentals at an early age. Had a relative that coached in their system so watched it with a bit of interest. I also know other coaches that have a work ethic their players and fans beleive is "second to none" as well.

But to say those kids have a harder work ethic than others that as a team are not as successful is foolishly assumptive at best. Yes those parents may be able to afford both financially and time wise to take their kids all around during the summer. Many parents that have talented kids that maybe would like to can not either because they or their kids are working full time in the summers or they simply do not have the funds to do so.

Surrey may not be the best example at this point given it's bedroom community status with Minot. I am curious though what is the fear of having a 3 class system to people like yourself.

From your emboldened statement and last paragraph I can see the base teachings of a Christian school may have fell a bit shorter than what you learned in the gym.

It appears others opinions have no value in that good Christian based education you received eh?

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I'm a Region 6 guy, grew up playing in this tough region every team always goes in spurts....it's all about the kids at the time if the buy into winning or not.....it's not about size or private all the time....I remember when Our Redeemers struggled for years to even make regionals and now the kids bought in and put the time in effort they are labeled bad guys.....Berthold smaller school in the state but those kids put time in the gym....Nedrose and South Prairie are fielding new programs with freshmen and sophmores but in a couple years after playing and getting beat by 30-40 points every night they will get better and start winning games...do they then become the bad guys after having to take their lickens?

Region 6 guy myself. Don;t think anyone is suggesting the kids are "bad guys here. Personally I don;t think the schools are "bad guys" either. It is simply about the changing times and situations.

Some schools outside of these parochial schools that are in close proximity to a larger town are now benefiting from open enrollment as well. Have relatives out east that work in a larger city that moved to a small town 30 miles away for not only the small town atmosphere to raise their kids, but admittedly so they have a better chance at playing sports. They dropped from school enrollments of 900 and 1100 down to 140. It happens a fair bit.

It is a simple fact of odds that schools with enrollment of say 85 kids 9-12 are likely going to have a tougher time being competitive than with a school of 215 kids 9-12.

The NDHSAA believed that changing circumstances demonstrated adding to the classes in the state football program was warranted.

Perhaps it is time to consider those same circumstances in basketball.

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Was impressed with those South Prairie kids. Came up and played a full JV game and then the same kids played the Varsity game and they never quit playing hard.

Half way through the 2nd quarter their coach called a time out and I heard him tell his kids with a smile on his face, "you guys aren;t tired yet are you? You've only played 6 quarters, you can;t be tired yet!"

Iron man basketball.

 

[YATYAS]

I heard the district reps met yesterday and voted in favor of a 3 class system. It now goes to the NDHSAA.

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If a 3 class system becomes a reality then I would support any school district within a metro area automatically in the middle class unless the enrollment is so high they go to the highest class. Then it would be tough to call them "bad guys" because they are playing against the biggest rural school.

 

[zoops]

I imagine ND is the only state with 2 classes of basketball anymore. Even Wyoming has 4, with 12-20 teams in each class. Class B in ND has what, about 120 teams?

 

[sweeney]

Three classes would be best for getting small schools to state but in my opinion, the fact that there are districts and regional tourneys is plenty enough of the tournament experience for the smaller schools already. I have more trouble with trinity getting a home game to get to state than the fact Mott regent new england halliday richardton Taylor fire chickens didn't make state.

 

[YATYAS]

I imagine ND is the only state with 2 classes of basketball anymore. Even Wyoming has 4, with 12-20 teams in each class. Class B in ND has what, about 120 teams?

I counted a 109 on the NDHSAA website.

 

[lunkerslayer]

I can see future sport coops will be centralized school systems, pembina County would have one school for high school, junior high, and elementary systems. Which will eventually those small schools will closing doors completely. Local communities in Pembina County have been talking about such a proposal. That is the future of North Dakota

 

[jpv]

I played legion ball when Feller first started coaching legion baseball in Surrey and I'll tell you one thing. If you want to listen to the man and learn from him he will coach the hell out of you and he puts a lot of trust in you to make the plays he knows you are capable of making. There was no better feeling for me than making a play that made Feller happy and I'm glad these kids he's coaching are playing their asses off for him. Im extremely happy for the guy and I'm glad the team he's coaching is playing for the state title no matter what school he's coaching for. I can only imagine the hours he himself has put in let alone the hours put in by the kids he's coaching. Go ORCS!!!

 

[jdinny]

Did anyone else notice dom izzo keep saying "kenmore" it's like holy shit there not appliances.

Anyhow OR or FWM tonight. Should be an up tempo game with little defense played. I'm hoping for a good game with OR on top.

 

[701FishSlayer]

Grew up with the Fellers mainly the middle brother but there's no difference with Jeremy, anybody that questions their integrity has no clue what they are talking about. ORCS has come from nothing to where they are at now. Building a program over the years, now they finally get there and some asshats can't accept the fact an organisations is stronger/better than them with a standup coach. To segregate the 3 is hilarious. Back in the day, teams would be chomping at the bit to play these schools for an easy win.

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There is no doubt Coach Feller is a good coach, have watched a few of their games and he does a nice job and you can see the kids he has have been taught fundamentals at an early age. Had a relative that coached in their system so watched it with a bit of interest. I also know other coaches that have a work ethic their players and fans beleive is "second to none" as well.

But to say those kids have a harder work ethic than others that as a team are not as successful is foolishly assumptive at best. Yes those parents may be able to afford both financially and time wise to take their kids all around during the summer. Many parents that have talented kids that maybe would like to can not either because they or their kids are working full time in the summers or they simply do not have the funds to do so.

Surrey may not be the best example at this point given it's bedroom community status with Minot. I am curious though what is the fear of having a 3 class system to people like yourself.

From your emboldened statement and last paragraph I can see the base teachings of a Christian school may have fell a bit shorter than what you learned in the gym.

It appears others opinions have no value in that good Christian based education you received eh?

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Region 6 guy myself. Don;t think anyone is suggesting the kids are "bad guys here. Personally I don;t think the schools are "bad guys" either. It is simply about the changing times and situations.

Some schools outside of these parochial schools that are in close proximity to a larger town are now benefiting from open enrollment as well. Have relatives out east that work in a larger city that moved to a small town 30 miles away for not only the small town atmosphere to raise their kids, but admittedly so they have a better chance at playing sports. They dropped from school enrollments of 900 and 1100 down to 140. It happens a fair bit.

It is a simple fact of odds that schools with enrollment of say 85 kids 9-12 are likely going to have a tougher time being competitive than with a school of 215 kids 9-12.

The NDHSAA believed that changing circumstances demonstrated adding to the classes in the state football program was warranted.

Perhaps it is time to consider those same circumstances in basketball.

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Was impressed with those South Prairie kids. Came up and played a full JV game and then the same kids played the Varsity game and they never quit playing hard.

Half way through the 2nd quarter their coach called a time out and I heard him tell his kids with a smile on his face, "you guys aren;t tired yet are you? You've only played 6 quarters, you can;t be tired yet!"

Iron man basketball.

I wouldn't be so fast to give this a thought. It's pretty true. There's quite the difference between certain players devoting their life to the game while others simply show up for practice, and the games only. Meanwhile on the weekends, other players, they are out partying harder than the Dude from The Big Lebowski himself while the true workhorses are putting in the work. Seen it with my own eyes, funny thing is it was some of the best players that practiced the least, weird huh. It goes both ways. The butthurt runs strong in many. Won't be long and there will be parent brawls breaking out at more and more high school sporting events. Parents got more heart than some of the players.

 

[BDub]

Lunker is probably spot on. The small school's are going away.

The state is basically broke for now. Small schools equals big expenses.

For the record Shiloh's coach is for a three tier system. Also that NBA player on their team sure didn't look like one last night.

According to today's report the small schools have been leading the charge in the past against the three tiers.

If you really want the three tiers then go to the ND State High School Activities Association. Now is the time.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/3990440-ndhsaa-assess-3-class-system

 

[lunkerslayer]

:;:exactlyYES!!!!! Thank you thank you, does this mean I am still the dumbest motherf#cker on the internet?
Bar none
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Back in 2001 the first year north border Eagles coop with pembina neche in all sports. They won state that year then the outcry came out because they won. It was not fair or the last team to win back to back state titles was a coop Mayport cg two different times

 

[Obi-Wan]

Everyone knows that Shiloh's emphasis is on academics and not sports that is why they have such a shitty sports complex.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Everyone knows that Shiloh's emphasis is on academics and not sports that is why they have such a shitty sports complex.

You can thank an old timer that was a pioneer in ND Oil for the Shiloh Gymnasium , It's an interesting story, I'm sure most have heard of the Iverson well . http://www.leachfoundation.org/Bios.htm

 

[gst]

Grew up with the Fellers mainly the middle brother but there's no difference with Jeremy, anybody that questions their integrity has no clue what they are talking about. ORCS has come from nothing to where they are at now. Building a program over the years, now they finally get there and some asshats can't accept the fact an organisations is stronger/better than them with a standup coach. To segregate the 3 is hilarious. Back in the day, teams would be chomping at the bit to play these schools for an easy win.

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I wouldn't be so fast to give this a thought. It's pretty true. There's quite the difference between certain players devoting their life to the game while others simply show up for practice, and the games only. Meanwhile on the weekends, other players, they are out partying harder than the Dude from The Big Lebowski himself while the true workhorses are putting in the work. Seen it with my own eyes, funny thing is it was some of the best players that practiced the least, weird huh. It goes both ways. The butthurt runs strong in many. Won't be long and there will be parent brawls breaking out at more and more high school sporting events. Parents got more heart than some of the players.

Please show where anyone has questioned anyones "integrity"? Please read the first statement in what you quoted.

Perhaps there is a bit of "butthurt" against those that think just as in football, perhaps situations have changed in other sports and communities as well when it comes to basketball.

 

[5575]

Starting a 6'9" 6'6" 6'4" yea just a little class B school from Minot ha ha ha

 

[SDMF]

I am NOT a "basketballish" person, not even a little during tourneys etc. But, I just watched the 1st two quarters of BB I've sat for since likely high school 20+yrs ago. If the NBA were even 25% as entertaining as what I just saw in the ND B tourney title game, I might be enticed to watch that as well.