If that's the case the parable shouldn't get you so fired up. It's the first quote I've shared after watching prairieghost and jaunr pick and choose what parts they agree with using it to justify their political opinions. Feeding school children shouldn't be partisan politics. I give away my fare share of plants, produce, and walleye. I also don't care if my taxes feed some school kid.
I agree that children are a choice. Unfortunately though, I view the situation as pay now or pay later. If keeping a kids' stomach full during the school day so they can learn to their fullest potential and become a productive citizen is what my dollar pays for, I am for it. If that reduces the disruptive behavior of a student who affects the rest of the class, I am for it. I've taught in public schools and I'll say that there are a lot of kids who benefit GREATLY from having food on the table. And it isn't always the poor kids, heck the better off kids often have parents who do nothing but drop them off in their Escalades and expect the school to feed them. It's not the kid's fault, it is the parents. Making them suffer, making the classroom disrupted by some mad hangry kid, etc. isn't worth it. I view it as a hell of an investment in our future, and at a small cost. There is a lot worse places to send tax dollars to, that is for sure. If we let these kids drag through school, we'll pay a lot more for them when they are on welfare and have 5 kids themselves. The circle repeats.
What gets me fired up is hypocrisy of quoting bible verses to shame someone or make you seem holier than thou. You read the Bible? good for you. You live by the Bible? Good for you. That means you are on your way to eternity. But you don’t need to show it off to everyone or try and shame someone. Jesus was humble, maybe you should try it.
Laugh reacts to the close minded and deaf ears
I'm not incredibly religious but grew up immersed in it. Both sides of the political spectrum have about tore the Bible to shreds trying to justify BS. It's disgusting. I fell into the same trapPreaching to the choir. I felt justified because it was in response to those who had done it as well. I was wrong.
Usually the preachies are the less godly people and go against exactly what the Bible teaches….usually they are also blinded by this and think….no not me.
I don’t think anyone here other than camper would argue with you. I wish we had zero taxes and didn’t have to pay for all the poor peoples shit either. They should work harder, get a better job etc etc. I’m just as pissed off with all the angry bums and handouts as you are John but the reality is we have 3 options to the current state of our country and state. Option 1) we all pull a Gordon kahl at the same time and stop paying taxes altogether. 2) we just keep bitching and whining on an outdoor site and do nothing material to change the circumstances. Or 3) we use the same tactic as those who take from us. They take bit by bit and incrementally so we don’t notice the theft in progress. Since the first two options don’t seem productive why don’t we take it back the way they took it? It’s no secret the federal government is trying to destroy the middle class. Our state elected leaders have a duty to protect its state citizens from enemies foreign and domestic. And that means protecting us from the financial terrorism taking place now. The most effective way to combat the federal overreach is to pass as many bills that prop up the middle class as they can at a time they are being assaulted the worst. Not every bill will help every Individual such as many middle class family’s wouldn’t be helped by a primary property tax bill that you are strongly for. However maybe many would be helped by a school lunch bill. My point is to counteract what is happening in the us today the most effective use of our tax dollars would be best spent going back to the middle class in one form or another. Or we can just sit back and bitch about all the welfare programs the poor get and come on this site and pout about it while the rich take their cut and the welfare folks take their cut
I don’t know John just throwing a fucking idea out here instead of just blanket stating I hate taxes.
You missed my point, it would be a law that your yearly property taxes would be set for the entire time you own the property based on the purchase price. Once you sell it the new owner would pay taxes based on the purchase price. Its not hard to understand, and if its a law they couldn't ding you for more. California has done this and it works.
My point was more so at the folks who believe handouts are harmless.I don’t think anyone here other than camper would argue with you. I wish we had zero taxes and didn’t have to pay for all the poor peoples shit either. They should work harder, get a better job etc etc. I’m just as pissed off with all the angry bums and handouts as you are John but the reality is we have 3 options to the current state of our country and state. Option 1) we all pull a Gordon kahl at the same time and stop paying taxes altogether. 2) we just keep bitching and whining on an outdoor site and do nothing material to change the circumstances. Or 3) we use the same tactic as those who take from us. They take bit by bit and incrementally so we don’t notice the theft in progress. Since the first two options don’t seem productive why don’t we take it back the way they took it? It’s no secret the federal government is trying to destroy the middle class. Our state elected leaders have a duty to protect its state citizens from enemies foreign and domestic. And that means protecting us from the financial terrorism taking place now. The most effective way to combat the federal overreach is to pass as many bills that prop up the middle class as they can at a time they are being assaulted the worst. Not every bill will help every Individual such as many middle class family’s wouldn’t be helped by a primary property tax bill that you are strongly for. However maybe many would be helped by a school lunch bill. My point is to counteract what is happening in the us today the most effective use of our tax dollars would be best spent going back to the middle class in one form or another. Or we can just sit back and bitch about all the welfare programs the poor get and come on this site and pout about it while the rich take their cut and the welfare folks take their cut
I was more razzing you than anything. I respect what you have to say on this forum. I think we are both in agreement on the handouts and throwing our tax dollars into bottomless welfare programs. If I could wave a magic wand and eliminate the bullshit we all end up paying for I certainly would. I was thinking more along the lines of if they are continue to pillage the middle class how can we turn it into a win for the middle class. I feel we’re past the point of trying to get them to reduce any tax or eliminate it. I think we need to come at it from a different angle and play the same game back at them. In the end the money may shuffle around more but it the end result is the middle class gets bigger piece of the pie they are already buying then it would in my mind be better than sending to the handout line and the millionaire developers in the state.
Gotcha. Yep, we just need it all defined so there are no numbers they can change whenever they want.
So your solution is to just eliminate it, which is fine, but what tax are you going to use or implement to replace the property tax funds? What is your solution?
Its not just our reps, us citizens keep voting to tax ourselves more and more, its pure insanity.
Absolutely agree..people follow what they are told. Guarantee people will hear the tax advertisement from burleigh county and go and vote for it.
ANYTHING but property tax. Said this a number of times. I get they will still get there money but it might just make it a little harder for them. Especially when someone goes to the store and sees the tax everyday.
